From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Question about completion behavior Date: Wed, 09 Mar 2022 12:32:14 -0500 Message-ID: References: <20220309001013.gxyh2uasbuxiz6ww.ref@Ergus> <20220309001013.gxyh2uasbuxiz6ww@Ergus> <20220309014619.bptamkv47xdiyhzp@Ergus> <831qzbg5j2.fsf@gnu.org> <20220309101159.4k3uma2ztvldlqiz@Ergus> <20220309114654.zq3h3u47btmt7q2u@Ergus> <83tuc7e066.fsf@gnu.org> <87y21ji6ht.fsf@yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="24334"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/29.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cc: Eli Zaretskii , Ergus , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Po Lu Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Wed Mar 09 18:33:16 2022 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1nS0BX-00064w-6q for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 09 Mar 2022 18:33:15 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:50496 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nS0BV-00057c-QE for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 09 Mar 2022 12:33:13 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:53170) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nS0Aj-0004Qa-3P for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 09 Mar 2022 12:32:25 -0500 Original-Received: from mailscanner.iro.umontreal.ca ([132.204.25.50]:33621) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nS0Ag-0005xJ-Bg; Wed, 09 Mar 2022 12:32:24 -0500 Original-Received: from pmg2.iro.umontreal.ca (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by pmg2.iro.umontreal.ca (Proxmox) with ESMTP id 8612B80543; Wed, 9 Mar 2022 12:32:19 -0500 (EST) Original-Received: from mail01.iro.umontreal.ca (unknown [172.31.2.1]) by pmg2.iro.umontreal.ca (Proxmox) with ESMTP id 3927680065; Wed, 9 Mar 2022 12:32:18 -0500 (EST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=iro.umontreal.ca; s=mail; t=1646847138; bh=e3TYfXFC+Si82aNOP6389hU5U40VZ/UVIYqjhsgQaAk=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:References:Date:In-Reply-To:From; b=o+ZrY60aK/UwwFcrdIYidUhRQedmZwOkgJVK0+nemnbL3EBeq1Rq/KPiNhmHD/WW+ e7eUE8/4WjYxJu4HlcPuYf+SZgOXFpqR2sm6TP/ZP6KTixcOT0Gd7P980PTzGwUb1K LCg+iKkPPGouMxUubuETuDhE2jkWvmfbeANJWLSAFUiqYXJbW0m57p73T+4hshk5e1 i21x8TmFvkmiArpr3K9gVNuc38N+ZqLfJW48sz+6+CXYPp714c2R0NW7A3Jt646pLf UdXatebVGk0dsuDVFGxWDdvNF961GThOCSyEGAEIMoo94sG0jcXZWwsoMAI1ubKQ+j ifQesJUNvflAg== Original-Received: from alfajor (lechon.iro.umontreal.ca [132.204.27.242]) by mail01.iro.umontreal.ca (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 23270120328; Wed, 9 Mar 2022 12:32:18 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: <87y21ji6ht.fsf@yahoo.com> (Po Lu's message of "Wed, 09 Mar 2022 21:46:06 +0800") Received-SPF: pass client-ip=132.204.25.50; envelope-from=monnier@iro.umontreal.ca; helo=mailscanner.iro.umontreal.ca X-Spam_score_int: -42 X-Spam_score: -4.3 X-Spam_bar: ---- X-Spam_report: (-4.3 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE=-0.01 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:286965 Archived-At: Po Lu [2022-03-09 21:46:06] wrote: > Eli Zaretskii writes: >> But yes, I think this behavior you propose _must_ be optional, most >> probably opt-in for starters. Not everyone will want it. > I agree completely. I'm sure many people have developed a lot of muscle > memory regarding completion, and even tiny changes will probably be a > nusiance to them. Then again, it's only by enabling it by default that we'll get a clear picture of which changes are annoyances are which aren't. So I'd start by changing the default on `master` and after a month or so, collect feedback to decide how to go about adding it: either by just changing the behavior willy-nilly, or introduce it but add an option to revert to the old behavior, or leave the default unchanged but add an option to get the new behavior, ... Stefan