From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: My emacs was upgraded and I am a novice again Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2007 00:09:01 -0400 Message-ID: References: <46F2BA57.3060604@gmail.com> <87fy16q8kq.fsf@lion.rapttech.com.au> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1190608858 15459 80.91.229.12 (24 Sep 2007 04:40:58 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2007 04:40:58 +0000 (UTC) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Sep 24 06:40:54 2007 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1IZfkc-0004gF-8r for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Mon, 24 Sep 2007 06:40:54 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IZfkZ-0006UZ-A0 for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Mon, 24 Sep 2007 00:40:51 -0400 Original-Path: shelby.stanford.edu!headwall.stanford.edu!newshub.sdsu.edu!border1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!local01.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.umontreal.ca!news.umontreal.ca.POSTED!not-for-mail Original-NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 23 Sep 2007 23:09:01 -0500 Original-Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/23.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:i4qfbqKarEn+/0WCG1sSbui5LbQ= Original-Lines: 16 X-Usenet-Provider: http://www.giganews.com Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: 132.204.27.213 Original-X-Trace: sv3-yEFHn5wI4d1uZ3WxXeTNHml+BCCttRWTvo0OzZ0H3B19D9OeAv0JOKpkBbnaGuSG8Jo37L2lKLdZTE7!kblBsNe1NhvkjqrTrjiVMHJLhVVUQILW33fypQ95ntFTUaX1GR9rjxbAZdlAvVB2EcIJgtxn7o5D!iD0NxmQJMKpASK2HGg== Original-X-Complaints-To: abuse@umontreal.ca X-DMCA-Complaints-To: abuse@umontreal.ca X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Otherwise we will be unable to process your complaint properly X-Postfilter: 1.3.35 Original-Xref: shelby.stanford.edu gnu.emacs.help:152279 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:47789 Archived-At: > Yes, another index, presuming familiarity with the oddities of texinfo. > Eli tells me that it is the official policy of gnu. I find that archaic. Maybe it's archaic to you, but I still haven't found any system available to me that comes even close in terms of indexing. Admittedly I haven't looked hard, but everything I see in actual use is HTML accessed from a web-browser, so there's no shorthand for doing an "index search" or a "full body regexp search", ... it doesn't even have key bindings to "go the next page" or "go back to the previous page" ("previous" as in "the page before this one in the book, not in my browse-history"). Texinfo is pretty far from perfect, but it does have its advantages. And its markup is usually a lot more readable than the godawful XML markup. Stefan