From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Bug with S-Tab in keymaps Date: Wed, 07 May 2008 11:17:43 -0400 Message-ID: References: <20080505141152.GA1365@muc.de> <20080505205411.GB1365@muc.de> <20080506212629.GA4534@muc.de> <87d4nzdo1m.fsf@catnip.gol.com> <20080507082452.GA2497@muc.de> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1210173503 16466 80.91.229.12 (7 May 2008 15:18:23 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 7 May 2008 15:18:23 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org, Drew Adams , Miles Bader To: Alan Mackenzie Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed May 07 17:18:59 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1JtlPl-00085T-TW for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 07 May 2008 17:18:42 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:33574 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JtlP1-0002Km-Ml for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 07 May 2008 11:17:55 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JtlOx-0002Kh-Jr for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 07 May 2008 11:17:51 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JtlOv-0002KV-RP for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 07 May 2008 11:17:51 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=48994 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JtlOv-0002KS-Ka for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 07 May 2008 11:17:49 -0400 Original-Received: from ironport2-out.pppoe.ca ([206.248.154.182] helo=ironport2-out.teksavvy.com) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1JtlOq-0005IW-LK; Wed, 07 May 2008 11:17:44 -0400 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AtMEAMxkIUhMCrRp/2dsb2JhbACBU6ss X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.27,449,1204520400"; d="scan'208";a="20020245" Original-Received: from smtp.pppoe.ca (HELO smtp.teksavvy.com) ([65.39.196.238]) by ironport2-out.teksavvy.com with ESMTP; 07 May 2008 11:17:44 -0400 Original-Received: from pastel.home ([76.10.180.105]) by smtp.teksavvy.com (Internet Mail Server v1.0) with ESMTP id NUY22644; Wed, 07 May 2008 11:17:44 -0400 Original-Received: by pastel.home (Postfix, from userid 20848) id C13E78E60; Wed, 7 May 2008 11:17:43 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: <20080507082452.GA2497@muc.de> (Alan Mackenzie's message of "Wed, 7 May 2008 08:24:52 +0000") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.0.60 (gnu/linux) X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:96686 Archived-At: >> > here's an embryonic `canonicalize-event' (note the American spelling >> > ;-). It works, e.g. for >> Why all the mucking about with symbols?! [E.g. 'C-M-u ] > My main point is that there should BE a standard way of representing key > sequences. There is, actually, but it's only partly formalized. See `reorder_modifiers' in src/keyboard.c for example. > At the moment there is not. So that if I type - > on my keyboard, function-key-map turns this into #x2000009. Sounds like a bug: as mentioned, shift-tab should be mapped by function-key-map to `backtab'. > Whether the standard I tentatively proposed is the right one or not can > be debated. I'd appreciate people agreeing with me that a standard is > wanted. No argument here. Stefan