From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#1058: 23.0.60; emacs --daemon should not return until socket is ready Date: Tue, 07 Oct 2008 22:03:15 -0400 Message-ID: References: <1222782234_2281@mail.internode.on.net> <200810011651.m91GpAZQ010333@mothra.ics.uci.edu> <87k5csds03.fsf@elegiac.orebokech.com> <200810012332.m91NWJ4s014658@mothra.ics.uci.edu> <874p3vediy.fsf@elegiac.orebokech.com> <200810020814.m928Ed1C016380@mothra.ics.uci.edu> <87myhmdgr8.fsf@elegiac.orebokech.com> <200810062059.m96KxaXM004646@mothra.ics.uci.edu> <200810071531.m97FVlPt007507@mothra.ics.uci.edu> <20081007231314.GD2288@Clio.twb.ath.cx> Reply-To: Stefan Monnier , 1058@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1223433016 6672 80.91.229.12 (8 Oct 2008 02:30:16 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 8 Oct 2008 02:30:16 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 1058@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com, Dan Nicolaescu , Romain Francoise To: "Trent W. 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Buck's message of "Wed, 8 Oct 2008 10:13:16 +1100") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.0.60 (gnu/linux) X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) Resent-Date: Tue, 07 Oct 2008 22:30:01 -0400 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:21250 Archived-At: >> 2. During the normal interactive startup the splash screen nowadays >> covers the *Messages* buffer too fast, so the user can miss the error. >> I should file a bug about this... >> >>> This is the main reason why I think that .emacs messages should go >>> to stdout. > Wouldn't it be better to address the actual issue (splash screen hides > *Messages* when something went wrong) rather than side effects > (*Messages* is hidden when --daemon, too)? The splash screen issue is completely separate. >> 7. This bug report is about something else: emacs --daemon && >> emacsclient -c not working. Romain's patch looks good, it does not >> add features, it's just a bug fix, so I don't see any reason it >> cannot go in right now. > Correct; stdout / splash screen stuff should be forked to a separate bug. Yes and no: the right fix for one is also the right fix for the other, AFAICT. Stefan