From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: message-mode is now default? Date: Sat, 18 Jul 2009 09:48:21 -0400 Message-ID: References: <878wimdbzp.fsf@catnip.gol.com> <87tz1av8ik.fsf@bzg.ath.cx> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1247924995 16365 80.91.229.12 (18 Jul 2009 13:49:55 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 18 Jul 2009 13:49:55 +0000 (UTC) Cc: ams@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org, rms@gnu.org, Miles Bader To: Bastien Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Jul 18 15:49:47 2009 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1MSAIL-0008Qm-Mb for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 18 Jul 2009 15:49:46 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:39307 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1MSAIL-0002lD-69 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 18 Jul 2009 09:49:45 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1MSAHB-0001ia-6i for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 18 Jul 2009 09:48:33 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1MSAH6-0001dd-LW for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 18 Jul 2009 09:48:32 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=51287 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1MSAH6-0001dU-4y for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 18 Jul 2009 09:48:28 -0400 Original-Received: from ironport2-out.pppoe.ca ([206.248.154.182]:57561 helo=ironport2-out.teksavvy.com) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1MSAH2-0000O9-CJ; Sat, 18 Jul 2009 09:48:24 -0400 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AikFAOdvYUpFpYWY/2dsb2JhbACBUctXhAwFhng X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.43,225,1246852800"; d="scan'208";a="41831443" Original-Received: from 69-165-133-152.dsl.teksavvy.com (HELO pastel.home) ([69.165.133.152]) by ironport2-out.teksavvy.com with ESMTP; 18 Jul 2009 09:48:21 -0400 Original-Received: by pastel.home (Postfix, from userid 20848) id E8D0C80B0; Sat, 18 Jul 2009 09:48:21 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: <87tz1av8ik.fsf@bzg.ath.cx> (Bastien's message of "Sat, 18 Jul 2009 07:51:12 +0200") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.0.94 (gnu/linux) X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:112678 Archived-At: > So why not making message-mode the default when those problems are > fixed? The long painful thread included various questions asking in which way message-mode was different, and nobody was able to answer those questions. It's only by making it default that we can find out, it seems. > Making message-mode the default is not a problem for people > who already use it, it is a problem for people who are not using it. > So making things smoother for these people is a good idea IMHO. This is a development branch. Breakage should be expected. Stefan