From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#1806: dired-pop-to-buffer in wrong place Date: Wed, 07 Oct 2009 01:54:51 -0400 Message-ID: References: <87r63gzcap.fsf@jurta.org> <496F11C0.4080700@gmx.at> <87ocy8fajt.fsf@jurta.org> <4975F4D5.5030000@gmx.at> <87y6tk1j47.fsf@mail.jurta.org> <49F7FE14.8010107@gmx.at> <49FFE515.4020608@gmx.at> <87vdnzpks0.fsf@mail.jurta.org> <4A11184F.4030606@gmx.at> <27ljouutzk.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <87vditmrxs.fsf@mail.jurta.org> <78zl8544jh.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> Reply-To: Stefan Monnier , 1806@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1254895694 16043 80.91.229.12 (7 Oct 2009 06:08:14 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 7 Oct 2009 06:08:14 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 1806@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com To: Glenn Morris Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Oct 07 08:08:05 2009 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1MvPgy-0001RT-E3 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 07 Oct 2009 08:08:04 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:54237 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1MvPgw-0008KR-Q2 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 07 Oct 2009 02:08:02 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1MvPgE-0007wS-QS for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 07 Oct 2009 02:07:18 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1MvPg9-0007sj-4N for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 07 Oct 2009 02:07:16 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=53016 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1MvPg7-0007sI-OS for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 07 Oct 2009 02:07:11 -0400 Original-Received: from rzlab.ucr.edu ([138.23.92.77]:58921) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1MvPg7-0000Bb-4U for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 07 Oct 2009 02:07:11 -0400 Original-Received: from rzlab.ucr.edu (rzlab.ucr.edu [127.0.0.1]) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.14.3/8.14.3/Debian-5) with ESMTP id n97679Jj006506; Tue, 6 Oct 2009 23:07:09 -0700 Original-Received: (from debbugs@localhost) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id n97604WK004234; Tue, 6 Oct 2009 23:00:04 -0700 Resent-Date: Tue, 6 Oct 2009 23:00:04 -0700 X-Loop: owner@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com Resent-From: Stefan Monnier Resent-To: bug-submit-list@donarmstrong.com Resent-CC: Emacs Bugs 2Resent-Date: Wed, 07 Oct 2009 06:00:04 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: owner@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com X-Emacs-PR-Message: followup 1806 X-Emacs-PR-Package: emacs X-Emacs-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 1806-submit@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com id=B1806.12548948983222 (code B ref 1806); Wed, 07 Oct 2009 06:00:04 +0000 Original-Received: (at 1806) by emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com; 7 Oct 2009 05:54:58 +0000 X-Spam-Bayes: score:0.5 Bayes not run. spammytokens:Tokens not available. hammytokens:Tokens not available. Original-Received: from ironport2-out.pppoe.ca (ironport2-out.teksavvy.com [206.248.154.181]) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.14.3/8.14.3/Debian-5) with ESMTP id n975suau003209 for <1806@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com>; Tue, 6 Oct 2009 22:54:58 -0700 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AlMFAFjKy0pMCqug/2dsb2JhbACBUdMShCoEhzQ X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.44,517,1249272000"; d="scan'208";a="47220040" Original-Received: from 76-10-171-160.dsl.teksavvy.com (HELO ceviche.home) ([76.10.171.160]) by ironport2-out.pppoe.ca with ESMTP; 07 Oct 2009 01:54:51 -0400 Original-Received: by ceviche.home (Postfix, from userid 20848) id 311C7B4190; Wed, 7 Oct 2009 01:54:51 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: (Glenn Morris's message of "Tue, 06 Oct 2009 22:58:28 -0400") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.1.50 (gnu/linux) X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) Resent-Date: Wed, 07 Oct 2009 02:07:16 -0400 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:31754 Archived-At: >> It may be suboptimal, > What is the optimal behaviour in your opinion? The optimal behavior depends on the user's intention, here. Calendar can't know it. So it should just strive to make it easy for the user to get what she wants. > This whole exercise seems to have been a waste of time. Yes, I'm sorry about it, but clearly the new "automatic double split" is not a good idea: sometimes it may correspond to what the user wanted, but I expect it'll be rare, and as mentioned, it's a lot easy for those users to hit C-x 3 before invoking calendar, than for the rest of them to undo the damage. KISS. Stefan