From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#1806: dired-pop-to-buffer in wrong place Date: Fri, 16 Oct 2009 16:41:17 -0400 Message-ID: References: <87r63gzcap.fsf@jurta.org> <87vditmrxs.fsf@mail.jurta.org> <78zl8544jh.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <4ACB0646.5030102@gmx.at> <87r5tg9mhb.fsf@mail.jurta.org> <87tyy4qu08.fsf@mail.jurta.org> <871vl6x5un.fsf@mail.jurta.org> <873a5lzqhi.fsf@mail.jurta.org> <4AD6B592.6090700@gmx.at> <87aazswbp2.fsf@mail.jurta.org> <4AD81B2B.8040805@gmx.at> <4AD87446.4090303@gmx.at> <4AD8A0D7.9060409@gmx.at> Reply-To: Stefan Monnier , 1806@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1255727263 926 80.91.229.12 (16 Oct 2009 21:07:43 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 16 Oct 2009 21:07:43 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 1806@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com To: martin rudalics Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Oct 16 23:07:32 2009 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1Myu1G-0002H2-Al for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 16 Oct 2009 23:07:26 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:42367 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Myu1F-0000aN-Q4 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 16 Oct 2009 17:07:25 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Myu1B-0000aG-Gf for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 16 Oct 2009 17:07:21 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Myu16-0000Z8-HY for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 16 Oct 2009 17:07:20 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=49328 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Myu16-0000Z5-80 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 16 Oct 2009 17:07:16 -0400 Original-Received: from rzlab.ucr.edu ([138.23.92.77]:42291) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1Myu15-0005Wc-NZ for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 16 Oct 2009 17:07:16 -0400 Original-Received: from rzlab.ucr.edu (rzlab.ucr.edu [127.0.0.1]) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.14.3/8.14.3/Debian-5) with ESMTP id n9GL7BAg010220; Fri, 16 Oct 2009 14:07:11 -0700 Original-Received: (from debbugs@localhost) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id n9GKo4PE007088; Fri, 16 Oct 2009 13:50:04 -0700 Resent-Date: Fri, 16 Oct 2009 13:50:04 -0700 X-Loop: owner@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com Resent-From: Stefan Monnier Resent-To: bug-submit-list@donarmstrong.com Resent-CC: Emacs Bugs 2Resent-Date: Fri, 16 Oct 2009 20:50:04 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: owner@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com X-Emacs-PR-Message: followup 1806 X-Emacs-PR-Package: emacs X-Emacs-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 1806-submit@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com id=B1806.12557256816322 (code B ref 1806); Fri, 16 Oct 2009 20:50:04 +0000 Original-Received: (at 1806) by emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com; 16 Oct 2009 20:41:21 +0000 X-Spam-Bayes: score:0.5 Bayes not run. spammytokens:Tokens not available. hammytokens:Tokens not available. Original-Received: from chene.dit.umontreal.ca (chene.dit.umontreal.ca [132.204.246.20]) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.14.3/8.14.3/Debian-5) with ESMTP id n9GKfJsR006318 for <1806@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com>; Fri, 16 Oct 2009 13:41:20 -0700 Original-Received: from faina.iro.umontreal.ca (faina.iro.umontreal.ca [132.204.26.177]) by chene.dit.umontreal.ca (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id n9GKfHk0012130; Fri, 16 Oct 2009 16:41:18 -0400 Original-Received: by faina.iro.umontreal.ca (Postfix, from userid 20848) id CBE9B3A3C3; Fri, 16 Oct 2009 16:41:17 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: <4AD8A0D7.9060409@gmx.at> (martin rudalics's message of "Fri, 16 Oct 2009 18:35:35 +0200") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.1.50 (gnu/linux) X-NAI-Spam-Score: 0 X-NAI-Spam-Rules: 1 Rules triggered RV3386=0 X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) Resent-Date: Fri, 16 Oct 2009 17:07:20 -0400 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:32014 Archived-At: >> Oh, I see what you mean now. Yes, it deserves a rename. But that's >> trivial to do, isn't it? > Renaming the function is trivial. The problem is finding meaningful > additional "frame-parameters" like 'same-window and 'same-frame As mentioned in some past thread, `same-frame' and `same-window' parameters were misdesigned (by yours truly). It should probably be a single parameter with values `same-frame' or `same-window' instead. Then we'd want to add the values `near-minibuffer' or `contiguous' for the dired-pop-to-buffer behavior. For the split-orientation, I'm not sure if that same parameter should be used, or if a new one should be used instead. > and how to make them interact with `pop-up-windows' and > `pop-up-frames'. I don't see much difficulty here. > I'm afraid there are few people with non-nil > `special-display-buffer-names' already. Making this more complicated > won't help anyone. I don't follow. Stefan