* odt file instant open
@ 2010-07-26 16:29 Olwe Melwasul
2010-07-27 7:30 ` Andreas Röhler
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From: Olwe Melwasul @ 2010-07-26 16:29 UTC (permalink / raw
To: help-gnu-emacs
I'm trying to grok the open document format, so I took the first wild
and crazy step of simply trying to open it in Emacs (23.2.1) -- and it
opened up to a "Zip-Archive Narrow" view of all the files contained
therein Poking around on the Internet, I found that Emacs
automatically unpacks a .odt file, which is nothing more than a zip
file. My question is this: How is Emacs doing this? What code is
running (what .el is invoked) to make this happen? Also, where might
documentation be on how to control this zip/unzip functionality with
elisp. I don't want to do a system call, i.e., reinvent the wheel.
O
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* Re: odt file instant open
2010-07-26 16:29 odt file instant open Olwe Melwasul
@ 2010-07-27 7:30 ` Andreas Röhler
2010-07-27 10:33 ` Thien-Thi Nguyen
2010-07-27 16:58 ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-07-27 16:55 ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-09-25 3:03 ` Jason White
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From: Andreas Röhler @ 2010-07-27 7:30 UTC (permalink / raw
To: help-gnu-emacs
Am 26.07.2010 18:29, schrieb Olwe Melwasul:
> I'm trying to grok the open document format, so I took the first wild
> and crazy step of simply trying to open it in Emacs (23.2.1) -- and it
> opened up to a "Zip-Archive Narrow" view of all the files contained
> therein Poking around on the Internet, I found that Emacs
> automatically unpacks a .odt file, which is nothing more than a zip
> file. My question is this: How is Emacs doing this?
by calling a shell-command resp. to the ending found.
Exists a list with endings --.zip, .tgz, .gz etc.-- and programs to run for.
Have a look at dired-do-compress for the details.
What code is
> running (what .el is invoked)
probably dired-find-file
HTH
Andreas
--
https://code.launchpad.net/~a-roehler/python-mode
https://code.launchpad.net/s-x-emacs-werkstatt/
to make this happen? Also, where might
> documentation be on how to control this zip/unzip functionality with
> elisp. I don't want to do a system call, i.e., reinvent the wheel.
>
> O
>
>
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* Re: odt file instant open
2010-07-27 7:30 ` Andreas Röhler
@ 2010-07-27 10:33 ` Thien-Thi Nguyen
2010-07-27 16:58 ` Eli Zaretskii
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From: Thien-Thi Nguyen @ 2010-07-27 10:33 UTC (permalink / raw
To: help-gnu-emacs
See also variable ‘auto-mode-alist’.
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* Re: odt file instant open
2010-07-26 16:29 odt file instant open Olwe Melwasul
2010-07-27 7:30 ` Andreas Röhler
@ 2010-07-27 16:55 ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-09-25 3:03 ` Jason White
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From: Eli Zaretskii @ 2010-07-27 16:55 UTC (permalink / raw
To: help-gnu-emacs
> Date: Mon, 26 Jul 2010 11:29:17 -0500
> From: Olwe Melwasul <hercynianforest@gmail.com>
>
> My question is this: How is Emacs doing this? What code is
> running (what .el is invoked) to make this happen?
arc-mode.el
> Also, where might documentation be on how to control this zip/unzip
> functionality with elisp.
Read the code and comments of arc-mode.el.
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* Re: odt file instant open
2010-07-27 7:30 ` Andreas Röhler
2010-07-27 10:33 ` Thien-Thi Nguyen
@ 2010-07-27 16:58 ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-07-27 17:34 ` Andreas Röhler
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From: Eli Zaretskii @ 2010-07-27 16:58 UTC (permalink / raw
To: help-gnu-emacs
> Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2010 09:30:32 +0200
> From: Andreas Röhler <andreas.roehler@easy-emacs.de>
>
> Am 26.07.2010 18:29, schrieb Olwe Melwasul:
> > I'm trying to grok the open document format, so I took the first wild
> > and crazy step of simply trying to open it in Emacs (23.2.1) -- and it
> > opened up to a "Zip-Archive Narrow" view of all the files contained
> > therein Poking around on the Internet, I found that Emacs
> > automatically unpacks a .odt file, which is nothing more than a zip
> > file. My question is this: How is Emacs doing this?
>
> by calling a shell-command resp. to the ending found.
No. For most archive types, arc-mode.el (and tar-mode.el) can list
the contents directly, just by reading the archive file itself.
Extracting the individual files in the archive sometimes needs to run
an external program.
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* Re: odt file instant open
2010-07-27 16:58 ` Eli Zaretskii
@ 2010-07-27 17:34 ` Andreas Röhler
2010-07-28 13:10 ` Kevin Rodgers
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From: Andreas Röhler @ 2010-07-27 17:34 UTC (permalink / raw
To: help-gnu-emacs
Am 27.07.2010 18:58, schrieb Eli Zaretskii:
>> Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2010 09:30:32 +0200
>> From: Andreas Röhler<andreas.roehler@easy-emacs.de>
>>
>> Am 26.07.2010 18:29, schrieb Olwe Melwasul:
>>> I'm trying to grok the open document format, so I took the first wild
>>> and crazy step of simply trying to open it in Emacs (23.2.1) -- and it
>>> opened up to a "Zip-Archive Narrow" view of all the files contained
>>> therein Poking around on the Internet, I found that Emacs
>>> automatically unpacks a .odt file, which is nothing more than a zip
>>> file. My question is this: How is Emacs doing this?
>>
>> by calling a shell-command resp. to the ending found.
>
> No. For most archive types, arc-mode.el (and tar-mode.el) can list
> the contents directly, just by reading the archive file itself.
> Extracting the individual files in the archive sometimes needs to run
> an external program.
>
>
>
Hi,
think you mistook the question.
As the OP wrote, he just opened the file without any precaution. The
surprise was: it worked.
Ignoring so for how opening was done in detail --via find-file or from
dired probably-- arc-mode seems not involved, but auto-compression-mode
from jka-cmpr-hook.el etc.
BTW arc-mode too recurs to shell-commands AFAIS,
(apply 'call-process
in archive-*-extract for example
Andreas
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* Re: odt file instant open
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@ 2010-07-27 20:53 ` Stefan Monnier
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From: Stefan Monnier @ 2010-07-27 20:53 UTC (permalink / raw
To: help-gnu-emacs
> Ignoring so for how opening was done in detail --via find-file or from dired
> probably-- arc-mode seems not involved, but auto-compression-mode from
> jka-cmpr-hook.el etc.
No: jka-compr is only used for compression-only format, like gzip,
compress, bzip, lzma, ... for archives of files (compressed or not),
it's either tar-mode (used for tarballs) or arc-mode (used for ar, zip,
lha, zoo, ...).
> BTW arc-mode too recurs to shell-commands AFAIS,
> (apply 'call-process
> in archive-*-extract for example
Yes, that's what Eli said:
Extracting the individual files in the archive sometimes needs to run
tan external program.
-- Stefan
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* Re: odt file instant open
2010-07-27 17:34 ` Andreas Röhler
@ 2010-07-28 13:10 ` Kevin Rodgers
2010-07-28 14:32 ` Andreas Röhler
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From: Kevin Rodgers @ 2010-07-28 13:10 UTC (permalink / raw
To: help-gnu-emacs
Andreas Röhler wrote:
> Am 27.07.2010 18:58, schrieb Eli Zaretskii:
>>> Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2010 09:30:32 +0200
>>> From: Andreas Röhler<andreas.roehler@easy-emacs.de>
>>>
>>> Am 26.07.2010 18:29, schrieb Olwe Melwasul:
>>>> I'm trying to grok the open document format, so I took the first wild
>>>> and crazy step of simply trying to open it in Emacs (23.2.1) -- and it
>>>> opened up to a "Zip-Archive Narrow" view of all the files contained
>>>> therein Poking around on the Internet, I found that Emacs
>>>> automatically unpacks a .odt file, which is nothing more than a zip
>>>> file. My question is this: How is Emacs doing this?
>>>
>>> by calling a shell-command resp. to the ending found.
>>
>> No. For most archive types, arc-mode.el (and tar-mode.el) can list
>> the contents directly, just by reading the archive file itself.
>> Extracting the individual files in the archive sometimes needs to run
>> an external program.
>
> Hi,
>
> think you mistook the question.
> As the OP wrote, he just opened the file without any precaution. The
> surprise was: it worked.
>
> Ignoring so for how opening was done in detail --via find-file or from
> dired probably--
I think you misread the question, that is exactly what the OP asked about:
How is Emacs doing this? What code is
running (what .el is invoked) to make this happen?
> arc-mode seems not involved, but auto-compression-mode
> from jka-cmpr-hook.el etc.
This entry from auto-mode-alist suggests otherwise:
("\\.\\(sx[dmicw]\\|od[fgpst]\\|oxt\\)\\'" . archive-mode)
> BTW arc-mode too recurs to shell-commands AFAIS,
> (apply 'call-process
> in archive-*-extract for example
Good point, which Eli made above as well. Here's what arc-mode.el says:
;; This code does not decode any files internally, although it does
;; understand the directory level of the archives.
--
Kevin Rodgers
Denver, Colorado, USA
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* Re: odt file instant open
2010-07-28 13:10 ` Kevin Rodgers
@ 2010-07-28 14:32 ` Andreas Röhler
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From: Andreas Röhler @ 2010-07-28 14:32 UTC (permalink / raw
To: help-gnu-emacs
Am 28.07.2010 15:10, schrieb Kevin Rodgers:
> Andreas Röhler wrote:
>> Am 27.07.2010 18:58, schrieb Eli Zaretskii:
>>>> Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2010 09:30:32 +0200
>>>> From: Andreas Röhler<andreas.roehler@easy-emacs.de>
>>>>
>>>> Am 26.07.2010 18:29, schrieb Olwe Melwasul:
>>>>> I'm trying to grok the open document format, so I took the first wild
>>>>> and crazy step of simply trying to open it in Emacs (23.2.1) -- and it
>>>>> opened up to a "Zip-Archive Narrow" view of all the files contained
>>>>> therein Poking around on the Internet, I found that Emacs
>>>>> automatically unpacks a .odt file, which is nothing more than a zip
>>>>> file. My question is this: How is Emacs doing this?
>>>>
>>>> by calling a shell-command resp. to the ending found.
>>>
>>> No. For most archive types, arc-mode.el (and tar-mode.el) can list
>>> the contents directly, just by reading the archive file itself.
>>> Extracting the individual files in the archive sometimes needs to run
>>> an external program.
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> think you mistook the question.
>> As the OP wrote, he just opened the file without any precaution. The
>> surprise was: it worked.
>>
>> Ignoring so for how opening was done in detail --via find-file or from
>> dired probably--
>
> I think you misread the question, that is exactly what the OP asked about:
>
> How is Emacs doing this? What code is
> running (what .el is invoked) to make this happen?
>
>> arc-mode seems not involved, but auto-compression-mode from
>> jka-cmpr-hook.el etc.
>
> This entry from auto-mode-alist suggests otherwise:
>
> ("\\.\\(sx[dmicw]\\|od[fgpst]\\|oxt\\)\\'" . archive-mode)
>
You are right here, Eli too. So the mistake is mine in this point.
.odt is handled differently from other archives as
("\\.g?z\\(~\\|\\.~[0-9]+~\\)?\\'" nil jka-compr)
("\\.bz2\\(~\\|\\.~[0-9]+~\\)?\\'" nil jka-compr)
("\\.Z\\(~\\|\\.~[0-9]+~\\)?\\'" nil jka-compr)
where I poked around some weeks ago...
Thanks
Andreas
>> BTW arc-mode too recurs to shell-commands AFAIS,
>> (apply 'call-process
>> in archive-*-extract for example
>
> Good point, which Eli made above as well. Here's what arc-mode.el says:
>
> ;; This code does not decode any files internally, although it does
> ;; understand the directory level of the archives.
>
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@ 2010-07-28 23:08 ` Stefan Monnier
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From: Stefan Monnier @ 2010-07-28 23:08 UTC (permalink / raw
To: help-gnu-emacs
> You are right here, Eli too. So the mistake is mine in this point.
> .odt is handled differently from other archives as
> ("\\.g?z\\(~\\|\\.~[0-9]+~\\)?\\'" nil jka-compr)
> ("\\.bz2\\(~\\|\\.~[0-9]+~\\)?\\'" nil jka-compr)
> ("\\.Z\\(~\\|\\.~[0-9]+~\\)?\\'" nil jka-compr)
Because these are not archives, but compressed files (they contain only
a single file, whereas archives typically contain several files).
Of course many .gz files have as their single "contained" file an
archive (or format Tar) which itself contains several file.
Stefan
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* Re: odt file instant open
2010-07-26 16:29 odt file instant open Olwe Melwasul
2010-07-27 7:30 ` Andreas Röhler
2010-07-27 16:55 ` Eli Zaretskii
@ 2010-09-25 3:03 ` Jason White
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From: Jason White @ 2010-09-25 3:03 UTC (permalink / raw
To: help-gnu-emacs
Olwe Melwasul <hercynianforest@gmail.com> writes:
> I'm trying to grok the open document format, so I took the first wild
> and crazy step of simply trying to open it in Emacs (23.2.1) -- and it
> opened up to a "Zip-Archive Narrow" view of all the files contained
> therein
The following may be useful:
http://www.cb1.com/~john/computing/emacs/lisp/editing/odf-mode.el
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