From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Recent change to describe-variable Date: Mon, 04 Apr 2011 09:46:19 -0400 Message-ID: References: <874o6gur58.fsf@stupidchicken.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1301925911 7971 80.91.229.12 (4 Apr 2011 14:05:11 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2011 14:05:11 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Chong Yidong Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Apr 04 16:05:07 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Q6kOw-0001q8-V5 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 04 Apr 2011 16:05:07 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:50801 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Q6k7T-0004Wv-3z for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 04 Apr 2011 09:47:03 -0400 Original-Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=43550 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Q6k6y-0004Ns-Hv for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 04 Apr 2011 09:46:52 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Q6k6n-0006Ni-4d for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 04 Apr 2011 09:46:25 -0400 Original-Received: from ironport2-out.teksavvy.com ([206.248.154.183]:34431 helo=ironport2-out.pppoe.ca) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Q6k6m-0006NW-S3 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 04 Apr 2011 09:46:21 -0400 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AvsEAMTKmU1Ld/Y6/2dsb2JhbAClX3iIebcEhWsElj8 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.63,297,1299474000"; d="scan'208";a="103070627" Original-Received: from 75-119-246-58.dsl.teksavvy.com (HELO pastel.home) ([75.119.246.58]) by ironport2-out.pppoe.ca with ESMTP/TLS/ADH-AES256-SHA; 04 Apr 2011 09:46:19 -0400 Original-Received: by pastel.home (Postfix, from userid 20848) id 66F6A58DF1; Mon, 4 Apr 2011 09:46:19 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: <874o6gur58.fsf@stupidchicken.com> (Chong Yidong's message of "Sat, 02 Apr 2011 20:15:15 -0400") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.0.50 (gnu/linux) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 206.248.154.183 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:138116 Archived-At: > This breaks using C-h v to examine let-bound variables in Lisp > backtraces. `e' is supposed to be a more reliable way to get this result. > Also, when coding I sometimes do (setq foo 1), and use C-h v to examine > the placeholder variable later on; this now fails. M-: also works well for that. > There doesn't seem to be any good reason to restrict the completion > this way. There is no strong reason for this change, it just seemed like a good idea since it eliminates keywords in a clean way. Stefan