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From: Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
To: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: STARTTLS for erc
Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2011 21:07:00 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <jwviprsdqy7.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <m362ntx2op.fsf@quimbies.gnus.org> (Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen's message of "Sat, 25 Jun 2011 19:04:38 +0200")

>> A protocol where sending a password is "necessary" is basically
>> incompatible with STARTTLS anyway (otherwise, it's trivial to force the
>> password to be sent in the clear).
> I don't quite follow you.  With pop3, for instance, a password is
> necessary, and STARTTLS works perfectly fine for pop3...

IIUC STARTTLS refers to "opportunistic encryption", which I find
incompatible with passwords since the opportunistic part means that if
the opportunity is absent, you end up sending passwords in the clear.
But maybe you had something else in mind for STARTTLS.


        Stefan



  reply	other threads:[~2011-06-27  1:07 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 10+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-06-22 23:55 STARTTLS for erc Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2011-06-23  0:54 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2011-06-23 12:24   ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-06-23 13:44     ` Antoine Levitt
2011-06-24 14:20       ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2011-06-23 13:49   ` Julien Danjou
2011-06-25 13:10   ` Stefan Monnier
2011-06-25 17:04     ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2011-06-27  1:07       ` Stefan Monnier [this message]
2011-06-27 10:25         ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen

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