From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: ChangeLogs in the elpa branch Date: Mon, 26 Sep 2011 11:52:24 -0400 Message-ID: References: <87ipofdbka.fsf@gmx.de> <87r533mxtq.fsf@keller.adm.naquadah.org> <871uv3d219.fsf@gmx.de> <8739fj5qmd.fsf@lifelogs.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1317052368 20381 80.91.229.12 (26 Sep 2011 15:52:48 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 26 Sep 2011 15:52:48 +0000 (UTC) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Sep 26 17:52:41 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([140.186.70.17]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1R8DTu-0005Ak-DR for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 26 Sep 2011 17:52:34 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:34282 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1R8DTt-0002Pp-RA for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 26 Sep 2011 11:52:33 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:50383) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1R8DTo-0002Aw-UK for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 26 Sep 2011 11:52:29 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1R8DTn-0001G3-QH for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 26 Sep 2011 11:52:28 -0400 Original-Received: from chene.dit.umontreal.ca ([132.204.246.20]:42143) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1R8DTn-0001Fi-My for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 26 Sep 2011 11:52:27 -0400 Original-Received: from faina.iro.umontreal.ca (lechon.iro.umontreal.ca [132.204.27.242]) by chene.dit.umontreal.ca (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id p8QFqOWJ026307; Mon, 26 Sep 2011 11:52:25 -0400 Original-Received: by faina.iro.umontreal.ca (Postfix, from userid 20848) id 9986BB41D0; Mon, 26 Sep 2011 11:52:24 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: <8739fj5qmd.fsf@lifelogs.com> (Ted Zlatanov's message of "Mon, 26 Sep 2011 09:23:54 -0500") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.0.50 (gnu/linux) X-NAI-Spam-Flag: NO X-NAI-Spam-Threshold: 5 X-NAI-Spam-Score: 0 X-NAI-Spam-Rules: 1 Rules triggered RV3992=0 X-NAI-Spam-Version: 2.2.0.9286 : core <3992> : streams <685353> : uri <969099> X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 132.204.246.20 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:144311 Archived-At: > I find them useful and "bzr log" doesn't always work as well as plain > text comments. For instance it's much harder to go back and edit a > published VCS log than a ChangeLog file. They each have their advantage and inconvenients, but they're not sufficient to justify keeping both. So for the "edit the VCS log", you'll want to file a feature request with the Bazaar guys (or rather, add your voice to the existing bug number). > `C-x 4 a' would need a parallel command to edit the built-in ChangeLog. Yes, C-x 4 a will need work so it's useful even without a ChangeLog. Maybe a simple way to do that is to have *VC-Log* save itself into a .changelog file which gets auto-removed upon commit, and then have C-x 4 use/create such a .changelog file (at the root of the checkout) if there's no ChangeLog. This has been discussed already in the past, but there hasn't been any progress, so I hope this change to `elpa' will be a motivating factor. Stefan