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From: Stefan Monnier <monnier@IRO.UMontreal.CA>
To: Daniel Colascione <dancol@dancol.org>
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: [Emacs-diffs] trunk r117002: Correctly treat progn contents as toplevel forms when byte compiling
Date: Mon, 21 Apr 2014 18:09:07 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <jwvioq2nxvp.fsf-monnier+emacsdiffs@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <535558EA.7070506@dancol.org> (Daniel Colascione's message of "Mon, 21 Apr 2014 10:44:10 -0700")

>>> Correctly treat progn contents as toplevel forms when byte compiling
>> Your commit messages should be copies of the ChangeLog entry.
>> Could you describe the case(s) that this fixes?
> See the testcases. Generally speaking, this change fixes situations
> where the byte-compiler miscompiles code that contains (or generates)
> top-level progns that define macros, then use them.

Can you show an example of a macro that does that?

>>> +  ;; Macroexpand (not macroexpand-all!)
>> That could be a problem.
> Why? We macroexpand-all forms later when we actually compile or eval them.

Not sure why, exactly.  It just feels like it could be a problem.
Usually, we assume it's safe to use macroexpand-all, and it's not 100%
crystal clear why we could be sure that macroexpand-all won't be used.

> Unless there's a good reason to depart from CL, we should follow CL's
> approach to things. CL in a good sane default, and in this case, CL
> specifies exactly the right behavior.

Yes.  But Elisp's design constraints, especially w.r.t macro expansion,
are slightly different, partly for historical reasons, partly for
technical reasons.  It might not be relevant here, but I just want to
make double sure.


        Stefan



  reply	other threads:[~2014-04-21 22:09 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <E1WcAcP-0006zy-MJ@vcs.savannah.gnu.org>
2014-04-21 15:09 ` [Emacs-diffs] trunk r117002: Correctly treat progn contents as toplevel forms when byte compiling Stefan Monnier
2014-04-21 17:44   ` Daniel Colascione
2014-04-21 22:09     ` Stefan Monnier [this message]
2014-04-21 22:29       ` Daniel Colascione
2014-04-22  2:09         ` Stefan Monnier
2014-04-22  2:21           ` Daniel Colascione
2014-04-22  4:25             ` Stefan Monnier
2014-04-22  4:46               ` Daniel Colascione
2014-04-22 15:06                 ` Stefan Monnier
2014-04-22 17:22                   ` Daniel Colascione
2014-04-22 18:13                     ` Daniel Colascione
2014-04-22 18:37                       ` Stefan Monnier
2014-04-22 19:08                         ` Daniel Colascione
2014-04-22 18:44                       ` Drew Adams
2014-04-22 19:23                         ` Daniel Colascione
2014-04-22 19:59                           ` Drew Adams
2014-04-22 20:10                             ` Daniel Colascione
2014-04-22 20:41                               ` Drew Adams
2014-04-22 21:05                                 ` Daniel Colascione
2014-04-23  0:50                                 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2014-04-22 18:29                     ` Stefan Monnier
2014-04-22 15:20                 ` Stefan Monnier
2014-04-22 17:04                   ` Daniel Colascione

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