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From: Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
Cc: 17801-done@debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: bug#17801: 24.3.91; Regression: Texinfo Mode inserts newline after markup
Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2014 09:19:59 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <jwvionvsp66.fsf-monnier+emacsbugs@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <83bntorme5.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Fri, 20 Jun 2014 11:54:58 +0300")

>> Indeed, that's why I haven't made such a change.
> Should we make such a change on the trunk at this time?

We could try, yes.  I bumped into this problem many years ago and didn't
dare to make such a change back then (instead, I added the
skeleton-end-newline variable, so that at least you can get rid of these
newlines without having to remove a lambda expression from a hook).

> Btw, while working on this, I bumped into some strange feature: the
> last \n element in a skeleton is only obeyed when it would be inserted
> not at end of line.  This is explicitly coded in skeleton.el:

>        ;; \n as last element only inserts \n if not at eol.
>        ((and (null (cdr skeleton-il)) (not recursive) (eolp))

Right, this is specifically so you can write skeletons which do the same
regardless of skeleton-end-newline.  I.e. so that after changing the
default of skeleton-end-newline, you can tell people they can fix their
skeletons by simply adding a final \n rather than having to test Emacs
version or the value of skeleton-end-newline.

> For this reason, if a skeleton wants to always insert a newline at the
> end, it quite embarrassingly must end with 2 \n elements, and risk
> inserting an extra newline in some cases.

Right, but this need is very rare in my experience.  You can always use
some other element, like "\n" instead.


        Stefan





      reply	other threads:[~2014-06-20 13:19 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 6+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-06-18 14:57 bug#17801: 24.3.91; Regression: Texinfo Mode inserts newline after markup Eli Zaretskii
2014-06-19  3:54 ` Stefan Monnier
2014-06-19 14:54   ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-06-19 15:44     ` Stefan Monnier
2014-06-20  8:54       ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-06-20 13:19         ` Stefan Monnier [this message]

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