From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: debbugs tracker builds character Date: Sun, 24 Jul 2016 12:21:40 -0400 Message-ID: References: <87twg2g86g.fsf@lifelogs.com> <83eg76n5h5.fsf@gnu.org> <87y45eeoor.fsf@lifelogs.com> <577D42BB.1020500@cs.ucla.edu> <87oa694rfw.fsf@russet.org.uk> <837fcxlbay.fsf@gnu.org> <87lh1d2wg5.fsf@russet.org.uk> <83eg75jk5h.fsf@gnu.org> <87lh1cb6p0.fsf@lifelogs.com> <87oa5sa176.fsf_-_@lifelogs.com> <874m7kmkcm.fsf@gmx.de> <871t2o6t94.fsf@gmx.de> <87wpkf6pup.fsf@lifelogs.com> <87poq6iweb.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87shv0uy3w.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87oa5ouf6x.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1469377258 7265 80.91.229.3 (24 Jul 2016 16:20:58 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 24 Jul 2016 16:20:58 +0000 (UTC) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Jul 24 18:20:49 2016 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1bRM93-0000oe-A2 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 24 Jul 2016 18:20:49 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:56671 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bRM92-0006xu-MO for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 24 Jul 2016 12:20:48 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:54934) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bRM7w-0006eN-UE for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 24 Jul 2016 12:19:41 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bRM7r-0000w4-SN for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 24 Jul 2016 12:19:39 -0400 Original-Received: from plane.gmane.org ([80.91.229.3]:46565) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bRM7r-0000vg-La for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 24 Jul 2016 12:19:35 -0400 Original-Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1bRM7o-0008Av-4J for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 24 Jul 2016 18:19:32 +0200 Original-Received: from 76-10-141-164.dsl.teksavvy.com ([76.10.141.164]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sun, 24 Jul 2016 18:19:32 +0200 Original-Received: from monnier by 76-10-141-164.dsl.teksavvy.com with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sun, 24 Jul 2016 18:19:32 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-Lines: 16 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: 76-10-141-164.dsl.teksavvy.com User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.1.50 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:lf9dZNdqbBFNEBugbfoUAtQ+UzU= X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 80.91.229.3 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:206087 Archived-At: > But the `seq-intersection' call will filter out packages that have been > installed (are in package-alist), but not loaded (are not in features). That was the intention. But indeed, if the user submits the report from another Emacs session than the one where the bug occurs, this may filter out the relevant package. > Also, what was the outcome of the seq.el pre-loading/autoloading > discussion? Are seq-* functions guaranteed to be available? We'd (require 'seq), that's not a problem. But indeed, by that measure we could also package-initialize unconditionally and just use package-alist. Stefan