From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Finding the dump Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2019 13:52:03 -0500 Message-ID: References: <83munr8jb1.fsf@gnu.org> <838szb8ey9.fsf@gnu.org> <83d0oj62bc.fsf@gnu.org> <87ef8z4g1m.fsf@igel.home> <83sgxe3yk1.fsf@gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: blaine.gmane.org; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:195.159.176.226"; logging-data="192787"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@blaine.gmane.org" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cc: Andreas Schwab , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Jan 27 19:53:30 2019 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1gnpYg-000o2v-GL for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 27 Jan 2019 19:53:30 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:49270 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1gnpYf-0003lQ-Fv for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 27 Jan 2019 13:53:29 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:36286) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1gnpXp-0003k7-2X for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 27 Jan 2019 13:52:37 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1gnpXn-0000rc-Im for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 27 Jan 2019 13:52:36 -0500 Original-Received: from smtp-as-02-09.vtxnet.net ([194.38.175.148]:43547 helo=smtp-as-02.vtxnet.net) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1gnpXl-0000Us-Jl; Sun, 27 Jan 2019 13:52:34 -0500 Original-Received: from smtp-pri-01.vtx.ch (smtp-pri-01.vtxnet.net [212.147.62.135]) by smtp-as-02.vtxnet.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 33C3B49CA2; Sun, 27 Jan 2019 19:52:12 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from fmsmemgm.homelinux.net (dyn.144-85-140-015.dsl.vtx.ch [144.85.140.15]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ADH-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp-pri-01.vtx.ch (VTX Services SA) with ESMTPS id 2C3391BF60D; Sun, 27 Jan 2019 19:52:03 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: by fmsmemgm.homelinux.net (Postfix, from userid 20848) id 4AF65AE243; Sun, 27 Jan 2019 13:52:03 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: <83sgxe3yk1.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Sun, 27 Jan 2019 17:33:34 +0200") X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x X-Received-From: 194.38.175.148 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:232732 Archived-At: > Indeed. In fact, Stefan's suggestion is just a slightly fancy (and > less portable) way of having an executable script which does > /foo/bar/emacs --dump-file=/wherever/something.pdmp > This is something users with certain needs and workflows may wish > doing, but I see no reason why we as a project would need to force > everyone on using such a setup. If the format of the dump file were changed to allow the first page to be skipped, it'd be for end-users to make it work without needing an extra file. > I see no advantages in it that would justify it. The only reason I can see not to want to support such a use case is the need to keep using the current setup (presumably because it's hard/inconvenient to support the other setup everywhere, i.e. because shebangs don't work in Windows and because they don't work quite right in MacOS (IIUC they'd break string using "#!emacs --script")). Other than that, making the dump be the file that is put in $PATH is the better option. Stefan