From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: feature/package+vc 04c4c578c7 3/4: Allow for packages to be installed directly from VCS Date: Wed, 26 Oct 2022 14:36:26 -0400 Message-ID: References: <164484721900.31751.1453162457552427931@vcs2.savannah.gnu.org> <20220214140020.04438C00891@vcs2.savannah.gnu.org> <87bkqmqpvb.fsf@posteo.net> <87edv96q4j.fsf@posteo.net> <83tu455a5s.fsf@gnu.org> <87a65v2ytp.fsf@posteo.net> <834jw33rmx.fsf@gnu.org> <87pmer0xtz.fsf@posteo.net> <83wn8z2aze.fsf@gnu.org> <878rle1i0k.fsf@posteo.net> <87ilkelc10.fsf@posteo.net> <878rl6syg8.fsf@posteo.net> <87zgdjqcu0.fsf@posteo.net> <87zgdivc3f.fsf@posteo.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="758"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/29.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cc: Richard Stallman , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Philip Kaludercic Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Wed Oct 26 20:52:42 2022 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1onlW6-000AUc-IB for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 26 Oct 2022 20:52:42 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1onlGv-0007xW-0r; Wed, 26 Oct 2022 14:37:01 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1onlGU-0007s0-Bv for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 26 Oct 2022 14:36:34 -0400 Original-Received: from mailscanner.iro.umontreal.ca ([132.204.25.50]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1onlGS-0003No-Hp; Wed, 26 Oct 2022 14:36:34 -0400 Original-Received: from pmg2.iro.umontreal.ca (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by pmg2.iro.umontreal.ca (Proxmox) with ESMTP id 2C37580630; Wed, 26 Oct 2022 14:36:29 -0400 (EDT) Original-Received: from mail01.iro.umontreal.ca (unknown [172.31.2.1]) by pmg2.iro.umontreal.ca (Proxmox) with ESMTP id A466C8007C; Wed, 26 Oct 2022 14:36:27 -0400 (EDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=iro.umontreal.ca; s=mail; t=1666809387; bh=ZID8F59U6YAvzsPyXpwHBmztjSZ7nNra+aiO0XnEnPk=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:In-Reply-To:References:Date:From; b=YFp/6ABW8fk4GYwcfcX76WT7ovhlAb4RKCb/cndAyFjR6OJp8uTNowrxl7XMf9JMS jbOEOnc1VtX2wb0jZUWdv1hX7N3oW87aMVEjXK39DITUB+A3DJ0LWzPuNDG6MO46+h Y85H3D6peoAz3Dm/QAOyPuz54pFzOYyldAVhENSP6c2K+ZhZBrp/Ic9tMI7Scz7CuS bFZxiGfEUpXg4oB/0LKj3FnVAou4gH0Fz5v9v3PjSIMrlprBhcDFIzfQ9vG9VGcCpx MK0F44K8rwN59Dia3N4VvfaysWmwzxDVCocLYacVhegZZkZr/PAF2jvAVlM1rlF7U3 grCXBtjnAbpEg== Original-Received: from lechazo (lechon.iro.umontreal.ca [132.204.27.242]) by mail01.iro.umontreal.ca (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 861F2120234; Wed, 26 Oct 2022 14:36:27 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: <87zgdivc3f.fsf@posteo.net> (Philip Kaludercic's message of "Wed, 26 Oct 2022 15:28:04 +0000") Received-SPF: pass client-ip=132.204.25.50; envelope-from=monnier@iro.umontreal.ca; helo=mailscanner.iro.umontreal.ca X-Spam_score_int: -42 X-Spam_score: -4.3 X-Spam_bar: ---- X-Spam_report: (-4.3 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:298569 Archived-At: Philip Kaludercic [2022-10-26 15:28:04] wrote: > Stefan Monnier writes: >>> It can be done, but I believe it would be best to add those kinds of >>> annotations to the server side (elpa-admin.el). The issue is that >>> figuring out what version was used to release a package is non-trivial >>> using just vc. >> >> FWIW, the more I think about it, the more I think `package-vc` should >> always use Git locally (regardless of the VCS used upstream). This will >> also make it easier to share the code with `elpa-admin.el` (e.g. to >> figure out which commit is the latest release). > > I am not sure about that, this would break the contribution workflow for > anyone interested in sending back patches to a non-Git project. AFAIK this is sufficiently hypothetical that I'm really not convinced it's worth the extra work (and the risk of incompatibilities between the `elpa-admin.el` behavior and that if `package-vc`, e.g. where they might disagree on which commit is "the" release). We can try to add some support for other local-VCS afterwards, but it shouldn't be a priority. Also, AFAIK the `git-remote-hg` adapter and the `git-remote-bzr` adapter are bidirectional, so they are still compatible with some workflows. Stefan