From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Adding AUCTeX to core Re: Why not include all ELPA packages in an Emacs release? Date: Sat, 08 Jun 2024 11:25:30 -0400 Message-ID: References: <87bk4ql3u5.fsf@jeremybryant.net> <864jagu9ji.fsf@gnu.org> <871q5ktxfh.fsf@posteo.net> <8734pzhzkh.fsf@jeremybryant.net> <874jafumc3.fsf@posteo.net> <87frtxhkp8.fsf@jeremybryant.net> <87sexo76s1.fsf@jeremybryant.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="26434"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Cc: Philip Kaludercic , Andrea Corallo , Arash Esbati , Eli Zaretskii , Stefan Kangas , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Jeremy Bryant Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sat Jun 08 17:26:20 2024 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1sFxxU-0006iE-IV for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sat, 08 Jun 2024 17:26:20 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1sFxwu-0006Fe-Qf; Sat, 08 Jun 2024 11:25:44 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1sFxwr-0006EN-RQ for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 08 Jun 2024 11:25:42 -0400 Original-Received: from mailscanner.iro.umontreal.ca ([132.204.25.50]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1sFxwp-0007rc-PI; Sat, 08 Jun 2024 11:25:41 -0400 Original-Received: from pmg3.iro.umontreal.ca (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pmg3.iro.umontreal.ca (Proxmox) with ESMTP id 3850B440809; Sat, 8 Jun 2024 11:25:37 -0400 (EDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=iro.umontreal.ca; s=mail; t=1717860331; bh=ffwEzpvmds+kO1fUOfNX11yNbwawYM7B7GpUe6yHY5U=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:In-Reply-To:References:Date:From; b=cdrlM54w6XuyhaJGPiIfCMKah0VPhxPtMCc4gfQV3K1z3bCngMB8BW9q0oLpeXOUm +/odG7S0ozGf6uTs3LMgXQ6e5FX4yN5i4SXSaoeW7b2oeTRX7IRnmtPhbu4+B+hIjp FHNs/3XyK50jdJP0AAuAe0F0SWDNhhAhdYJsP/V0BaV/1Xy0SvBJvG1ikweHc/LR3O uoVPqQsccNdYoRAPVSQpx/WMtAehCwW7VVgGF82vFP27glMgfXMq9/TTjGuRXsGwrN HR2CI5cN2V0v9D9zKIp/ayzGQbM9I6A4Z2N7CNLcLg5pHEPXbOsBMcDJx5rLXUc1QM 0rSJkjeZHVXyA== Original-Received: from mail01.iro.umontreal.ca (unknown [172.31.2.1]) by pmg3.iro.umontreal.ca (Proxmox) with ESMTP id C9D6F4407B0; Sat, 8 Jun 2024 11:25:31 -0400 (EDT) Original-Received: from pastel (unknown [24.140.236.196]) by mail01.iro.umontreal.ca (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 871C3120550; Sat, 8 Jun 2024 11:25:31 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: <87sexo76s1.fsf@jeremybryant.net> (Jeremy Bryant's message of "Fri, 07 Jun 2024 23:00:14 +0100") Received-SPF: pass client-ip=132.204.25.50; envelope-from=monnier@iro.umontreal.ca; helo=mailscanner.iro.umontreal.ca X-Spam_score_int: -42 X-Spam_score: -4.3 X-Spam_bar: ---- X-Spam_report: (-4.3 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE=-0.01 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:319901 Archived-At: > Alternatively, I can volunteer to work on a prototype bundling of > AUCTeX, but would need your suggestions on this. I really do want to see Emacs growing its build setup so it can bundle ELPA packages like AUCTeX. But that should not require any change on the part of AUCTeX. The benefit being that end users will get AUCTeX support without having to download and install the package. In comparison migrating AUCTeX into Emacs would require significant extra work on the part of AUCTeX with no extra benefit for the end users. Stefan