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From: Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
Subject: Re: is easy to get hung in infinite ^G stream; how to stop it?
Date: Wed, 26 May 2004 22:15:33 GMT	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <jwvhdu2rg4g.fsf-monnier+gnu.emacs.help@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: c93423$4r4$1@reader2.panix.com

> | cpml% vi foo.foo
> | 
> | [Using open mode]
> |      1  
> | "foo.foo" 3 lines, 45 characters 
> |      1  
> | 
> |      2  .
> | \a
> |      3  3
> | \a
> | \aq
> | \a\a
> | \a\a\a\a      <---- Tried a series of Control-C chars here
> | | \a  <---- each line comes from a simple newline.
> | \a
> | \a
> | 

> Thanks for *any* hints on escaping from this hole!

Have you tried to type `: q RET' ?


        Stefan


From: patl@athena.mit.edu (Patrick J. LoPresti)
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Date: 11 Jul 91 03:17:31 GMT
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When I log into my Xenix system with my 110 baud teletype, both vi
*and* Emacs are just too damn slow.  They print useless messages like,
'C-h for help' and '"foo" File is read only'.  So I use the editor
that doesn't waste my VALUABLE time.

Ed, man!  !man ed

ED(1)               UNIX Programmer's Manual                ED(1)

NAME
     ed - text editor

SYNOPSIS
     ed [ - ] [ -x ] [ name ]
DESCRIPTION
     Ed is the standard text editor.
---

Computer Scientists love ed, not just because it comes first
alphabetically, but because it's the standard.  Everyone else loves ed
because it's ED!

"Ed is the standard text editor."

And ed doesn't waste space on my Timex Sinclair.  Just look:

-rwxr-xr-x  1 root          24 Oct 29  1929 /bin/ed
-rwxr-xr-t  4 root     1310720 Jan  1  1970 /usr/ucb/vi
-rwxr-xr-x  1 root  5.89824e37 Oct 22  1990 /usr/bin/emacs

Of course, on the system *I* administrate, vi is symlinked to ed.
Emacs has been replaced by a shell script which 1) Generates a syslog
message at level LOG_EMERG; 2) reduces the user's disk quota by 100K;
and 3) RUNS ED!!!!!!

"Ed is the standard text editor."

Let's look at a typical novice's session with the mighty ed:

golem> ed

?
help
?
?
?
quit
?
exit
?
bye
?
hello?
?
eat flaming death
?
^C
?
^C
?
^D
?

---
Note the consistent user interface and error reportage.  Ed is
generous enough to flag errors, yet prudent enough not to overwhelm
the novice with verbosity.

"Ed is the standard text editor."

Ed, the greatest WYGIWYG editor of all.

ED IS THE TRUE PATH TO NIRVANA!  ED HAS BEEN THE CHOICE OF EDUCATED
AND IGNORANT ALIKE FOR CENTURIES!  ED WILL NOT CORRUPT YOUR PRECIOUS
BODILY FLUIDS!!  ED IS THE STANDARD TEXT EDITOR!  ED MAKES THE SUN
SHINE AND THE BIRDS SING AND THE GRASS GREEN!!

When I use an editor, I don't want eight extra KILOBYTES of worthless
help screens and cursor positioning code!  I just want an EDitor!!
Not a "viitor".  Not a "emacsitor".  Those aren't even WORDS!!!! ED!
ED! ED IS THE STANDARD!!!

TEXT EDITOR.

When IBM, in its ever-present omnipotence, needed to base their
"edlin" on a UNIX standard, did they mimic vi?  No.  Emacs?  Surely
you jest.  They chose the most karmic editor of all.  The standard.

Ed is for those who can *remember* what they are working on.  If you
are an idiot, you should use Emacs.  If you are an Emacs, you should
not be vi.  If you use ED, you are on THE PATH TO REDEMPTION.  THE
SO-CALLED "VISUAL" EDITORS HAVE BEEN PLACED HERE BY ED TO TEMPT THE
FAITHLESS.  DO NOT GIVE IN!!!  THE MIGHTY ED HAS SPOKEN!!!

?

  reply	other threads:[~2004-05-26 22:15 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 13+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2004-04-25  6:28 is easy to get hung in infinite ^G stream; how to stop it? David Combs
2004-04-25  6:57 ` David Combs
2004-04-25 14:04 ` Barry Margolin
2004-05-25 23:45   ` David Combs
2004-05-26  4:31     ` Barry Margolin
2004-05-26 22:00       ` David Combs
2004-05-26 22:15         ` Stefan Monnier [this message]
2004-05-27  5:49           ` David Combs
2004-05-27  6:56             ` Barry Margolin
2004-05-27 19:34             ` Stefan Monnier
2004-05-28  8:22             ` Kai Grossjohann
2004-04-25 17:06 ` Kai Grossjohann
2004-05-25  6:31   ` David Combs

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