From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: strange emacs 21.4 on ftp.gnu.org:/pub/gnu/emacs Date: Mon, 07 Feb 2005 15:42:47 -0500 Message-ID: References: <73766b120502070245671f77ee@mail.gmail.com> <87brawmmzp.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org> <01c50d53$Blat.v2.4$3d003e80@zahav.net.il> NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1107808959 32232 80.91.229.2 (7 Feb 2005 20:42:39 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2005 20:42:39 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Feb 07 21:42:39 2005 Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1CyFiN-0004Qy-Vb for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 07 Feb 2005 21:42:36 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1CyFwZ-0007Gj-W0 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 07 Feb 2005 15:57:16 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1CyFw4-0007D5-Mu for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 07 Feb 2005 15:56:44 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1CyFvw-00077R-CL for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 07 Feb 2005 15:56:38 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1CyFvv-00077G-J0 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 07 Feb 2005 15:56:35 -0500 Original-Received: from [132.204.24.67] (helo=mercure.iro.umontreal.ca) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1CyFif-0000I4-Qr; Mon, 07 Feb 2005 15:42:54 -0500 Original-Received: from hidalgo.iro.umontreal.ca (hidalgo.iro.umontreal.ca [132.204.27.50]) by mercure.iro.umontreal.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8506E8282B3; Mon, 7 Feb 2005 15:42:53 -0500 (EST) Original-Received: from asado.iro.umontreal.ca (asado.iro.umontreal.ca [132.204.24.84]) by hidalgo.iro.umontreal.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB3AA4AC16A; Mon, 7 Feb 2005 15:42:47 -0500 (EST) Original-Received: by asado.iro.umontreal.ca (Postfix, from userid 20848) id CCAD44C215; Mon, 7 Feb 2005 15:42:47 -0500 (EST) Original-To: Eli Zaretskii In-Reply-To: <01c50d53$Blat.v2.4$3d003e80@zahav.net.il> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Mon, 07 Feb 2005 22:24:58 +0200") User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/21.3.50 (gnu/linux) X-DIRO-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-DIRO-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-DIRO-MailScanner-SpamCheck: n'est pas un polluriel, SpamAssassin (score=-4.782, requis 5, autolearn=not spam, AWL 0.12, BAYES_00 -4.90) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org X-MailScanner-To: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:33043 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:33043 >> Am I the only one who finds himself very much surprised that even though >> he's a fairly active contributor and reads emacs-devel, >> emacs-pretest-bug, gnu.emacs.help, gnus.emacs.bug, gnu.emacs.announce, >> and a few more places, he has not seen any announcement (let alone >> discussion) of this new release? > I'm not surprised: it takes time for the announcement to get from > Richard's mail to gnu.org servers and from there to propagate to the > news groups. On top of that, gnu.emacs.announce was in the past known > to have problems with announcements. Well, I'm still surprised that the only mention of this decision was only sent to something like gnu.emacs.announce which is known to be at best flaky. I would have appreciated some warning *beforehand* in emacs-devel. Just to ackowledge that we actually exist. But I guess the method used reflects the fact that we simply have no say whatsoever in those matters. Stefan