From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: patch: handle PS/PDF in Gnus Date: Sun, 08 Jul 2007 10:31:08 -0400 Message-ID: References: <86r6nl8s13.fsf@lola.quinscape.zz> <8480CDB2-EDBB-4B62-A3CC-D8A13A8E5A46@gmail.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1183905591 1406 80.91.229.12 (8 Jul 2007 14:39:51 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 8 Jul 2007 14:39:51 +0000 (UTC) Cc: david.reitter@gmail.com, YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Jul 08 16:39:49 2007 connect(): Connection refused Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1I7XvP-0004C3-61 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 08 Jul 2007 16:39:47 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1I7XvO-0005Ce-Lc for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 08 Jul 2007 10:39:46 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1I7XvL-0005CL-Hm for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 08 Jul 2007 10:39:43 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1I7XvJ-0005C1-V5 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 08 Jul 2007 10:39:43 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1I7XvJ-0005By-Q5 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 08 Jul 2007 10:39:41 -0400 Original-Received: from tomts20.bellnexxia.net ([209.226.175.74] helo=tomts20-srv.bellnexxia.net) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1I7XvI-0007Ev-F6; Sun, 08 Jul 2007 10:39:40 -0400 Original-Received: from pastel.home ([74.12.204.164]) by tomts20-srv.bellnexxia.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.13 201-253-122-130-113-20050324) with ESMTP id <20070708143939.LZTG1637.tomts20-srv.bellnexxia.net@pastel.home>; Sun, 8 Jul 2007 10:39:39 -0400 Original-Received: by pastel.home (Postfix, from userid 20848) id EB9A98045; Sun, 8 Jul 2007 10:31:08 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Sun\, 08 Jul 2007 06\:22\:27 +0300") User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.1.50 (gnu/linux) X-detected-kernel: Solaris 8 (1) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:74465 Archived-At: > I think we need to discuss a platform-independent interface to a > printer dialog, before we implement platform-dependent > implementations. Carbon and Gtk+ are not the only platforms that have > such dialogs built into the OS APIs. Maybe the best solution for that goes as follows: 1 - each platform implementer writes a C DEFUN that provides the most obvious and direct interface to the underlying API. 2 - we then compare the various resulting interfaces and come up with a Lisp library written on top of it which unifies them into a platform-independent interface. 3 - most likely along the way, the unification effort showed that some of the platform-specific implementations can be improved or need to be changed. The idea here is that number 1 can be done by each implementer without knowing anything else, whereas number 2 can be done by people like myself who lack the platform-specific knowledge. Stefan