From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel,gmane.emacs.xemacs.beta Subject: Re: New start up splash screen annoyance... Date: Sun, 23 Sep 2007 21:16:24 -0400 Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1190596598 22401 80.91.229.12 (24 Sep 2007 01:16:38 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2007 01:16:38 +0000 (UTC) Cc: "Stephen J. Turnbull" , xemacs-beta@xemacs.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: "Drew Adams" Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Sep 24 03:16:33 2007 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1IZcYq-00049e-81 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 24 Sep 2007 03:16:32 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IZcYn-0003Ox-FI for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 23 Sep 2007 21:16:29 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1IZcYl-0003Oi-8A for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 23 Sep 2007 21:16:27 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1IZcYj-0003OV-Q8 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 23 Sep 2007 21:16:26 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IZcYj-0003OS-LX for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 23 Sep 2007 21:16:25 -0400 Original-Received: from tomts16.bellnexxia.net ([209.226.175.4] helo=tomts16-srv.bellnexxia.net) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1IZcYj-0001hR-CH for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 23 Sep 2007 21:16:25 -0400 Original-Received: from pastel.home ([74.12.208.240]) by tomts16-srv.bellnexxia.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.13 201-253-122-130-113-20050324) with ESMTP id <20070924011624.MGEI574.tomts16-srv.bellnexxia.net@pastel.home> for ; Sun, 23 Sep 2007 21:16:24 -0400 Original-Received: by pastel.home (Postfix, from userid 20848) id 32ACB858A; Sun, 23 Sep 2007 21:16:23 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: (Drew Adams's message of "Sun\, 23 Sep 2007 13\:42\:42 -0700") User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/23.0.50 (gnu/linux) X-Detected-Kernel: Solaris 8 (1) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:79650 gmane.emacs.xemacs.beta:25839 Archived-At: > This is madness. We are going overboard, trying to compensate for things > that we never should have done in the first place. Who will try to close a > window by resizing it to infinitessimal oblivion? I would. Based on experience with many other applications where you drag separators to resize various areas. > And yes, Stefan is right if we go down that road. Are we going to have a > whole UI dialog to find out whether a user really meant to close the window? > Or allow a special kind of undo for window-closing-by-dragging? I only meant to allow resuscitate when done as part of the same drag operation (i.e. once you release the button, there's no going back). Stefan