From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: inputting characters by hexadigit Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 16:12:46 -0400 Message-ID: References: <868ww3vydn.fsf@lifelogs.com> <87mykhz6tf.fsf@jurta.org> <87tzeokrku.fsf@jurta.org> <87od4wgg8p.fsf@catnip.gol.com> <86od4vmi5i.fsf@lifelogs.com> <873am6n21q.fsf@jurta.org> <87sku5if8t.fsf_-_@jurta.org> <87od4sti4g.fsf@jurta.org> <867ibcekf3.fsf@lifelogs.com> <86tzegcq15.fsf@lifelogs.com> <86bq0nctbv.fsf@lifelogs.com> <86r69jb8z2.fsf@lifelogs.com> <005a01c8edae$beff6480$0ab32382@us.oracle.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1216930409 5586 80.91.229.12 (24 Jul 2008 20:13:29 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 20:13:29 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 'Ted Zlatanov' , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: "Drew Adams" Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Jul 24 22:14:17 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1KM7C9-0007Nt-Ny for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 24 Jul 2008 22:13:50 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:56624 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KM7BG-0003g4-4J for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 24 Jul 2008 16:12:54 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1KM7BB-0003eo-Q1 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 24 Jul 2008 16:12:49 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1KM7B9-0003cG-VI for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 24 Jul 2008 16:12:49 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=48861 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KM7B9-0003c7-SV for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 24 Jul 2008 16:12:47 -0400 Original-Received: from pruche.dit.umontreal.ca ([132.204.246.22]:34240) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1KM7B9-0003oB-Lt for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 24 Jul 2008 16:12:47 -0400 Original-Received: from alfajor.home (vpn-132-204-232-35.acd.umontreal.ca [132.204.232.35]) by pruche.dit.umontreal.ca (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id m6OKDBbV015692; Thu, 24 Jul 2008 16:13:11 -0400 Original-Received: by alfajor.home (Postfix, from userid 20848) id 1EFF81C523; Thu, 24 Jul 2008 16:12:46 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: <005a01c8edae$beff6480$0ab32382@us.oracle.com> (Drew Adams's message of "Thu, 24 Jul 2008 10:00:15 -0700") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.0.60 (gnu/linux) X-NAI-Spam-Score: 0 X-NAI-Spam-Rules: 1 Rules triggered RV3067=0 X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:101417 Archived-At: > I can't believe this. So now we're going to muck with existing > completion mechanisms even more, trying out new features, just for > this Unicode character input thing? Looks like a sensitive subject, huh? > How about finishing what you were doing to move the completion code to > Lisp, It's finished for now. > and adding the `completing-read-function' variable we've been > waiting for? Talking like a king? I'm not opposed to such a change, but I have other things to do. So if someone else wants to install such a thing, he should go right ahead. In the mean time, defadvice works well for such things. > The so-called translation to Lisp has already resulted in adding new > "features" with no discussion here. The purpose of the translation was to then facilitate the introduction of new features. So, yes, there are new features, of course. Indeed, I have no discussed them but instead imposed them by fiat, waiting for the reactions. Surprisingly enough, I basically haven't heard any complaint about the new behavior(s), even though it enables the equivalent of partial-completion-mode by default. > The addition of `completing-read-function', unlike those changes, will > not require users to change their code in any way. The new completion code is about as compatible to the old as I could make it. I can't remember the problems it introduced, but IIRC they were all unrelated to the translation itself but instead related to other bugfixes that were applied at the same time. BTW, I regret having forgotten about the incompatibilities. It would be good to keep track of them somewhere, to help other package developpers. Stefan