From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Emacs 21/22: french =?iso-8859-1?q?=E7?= and =?utf-8?b?xZM=?= Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2008 13:52:59 -0400 Message-ID: References: <87ljwa6zjj.fsf@mat.ucm.es> <87bpx65fjj.fsf@mat.ucm.es> <87hc6w7v9j.fsf@mat.ucm.es> <871vy0yi9a.fsf@gmail.com> <87skqgwxns.fsf@gmail.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1225216402 32500 80.91.229.12 (28 Oct 2008 17:53:22 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2008 17:53:22 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Uwe Brauer , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Paul R Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Oct 28 18:54:23 2008 connect(): Connection refused Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1Kuslo-0004Mx-Av for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 28 Oct 2008 18:54:20 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:40552 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Kuski-000495-AD for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 28 Oct 2008 13:53:12 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Kuskd-00048p-CR for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 28 Oct 2008 13:53:07 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Kuskc-00048d-6q for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 28 Oct 2008 13:53:07 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=52098 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Kuskc-00048a-0W for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 28 Oct 2008 13:53:06 -0400 Original-Received: from pruche.dit.umontreal.ca ([132.204.246.22]:57090) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1Kuskb-0007wf-QE for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 28 Oct 2008 13:53:05 -0400 Original-Received: from alfajor.home (vpn-132-204-232-40.acd.umontreal.ca [132.204.232.40]) by pruche.dit.umontreal.ca (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id m9SHrZp0013895; Tue, 28 Oct 2008 13:53:35 -0400 Original-Received: by alfajor.home (Postfix, from userid 20848) id 6ECF91C15F; Tue, 28 Oct 2008 13:53:01 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: <87skqgwxns.fsf@gmail.com> (Paul R.'s message of "Tue, 28 Oct 2008 16:24:07 +0100") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.0.60 (gnu/linux) X-NAI-Spam-Score: 0 X-NAI-Spam-Rules: 1 Rules triggered RV3134=0 X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:105086 Archived-At: > Indeed, and this latin-1 story is rather sad. But I am not a linguist, > so I doubles checked through the web and found two ressources that > I think we can trust : > http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/=C5=92 > http://www.druide.com/points_de_langue_15.html > both saying =C5=93 is mandatory. I'm not arguing that "coeur" is as good as "c=C5=93ur", jus that if you wri= te "coeur" *very* few people will even notice it. Stefan> The "Robert" dictionary sorts "=C5=93" as if it were "oe", so it's Stefan> pretty close to equivalent. > I often read text where =C5=93 is written oe, so it is a common mistake in > french readings. Yes, extremely common. I'd even say that only ones who care are the same people who get bothered by the "extra space between words" that often shows up by mistake in Word documents (I'm one of those). Stefan