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From: Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
To: "Stephen J. Turnbull" <stephen@xemacs.org>
Cc: cyd@stupidchicken.com, eliz@gnu.org, rms@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Terminology in multi-tty primitives
Date: Wed, 31 Dec 2008 01:28:08 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <jwvhc4ksvww.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87iqp0syet.fsf@xemacs.org> (Stephen J. Turnbull's message of "Wed, 31 Dec 2008 14:31:54 +0900")

> I don't care what the interface is called.  But my feeling is that the
> primary UI operation here is "withdrawing a frame", and that whether
> the process gets STOPed or not is an implementation detail.  For
> example, in a terminal-based emacs you could (in theory) do

We all agree.  What you're describing is a command: the "consistent
behavior" is user-level behavior, not Lisp-level behavior.
So we do have the suspend-frame command for that purpose.

But we're here talking about whether such a *function* would make sense
and how.  Since the implementation of the concept of "suspend" is wildly
different in those different cases, the Lisp behavior will be quite
different as well, making it more difficult (and/or less useful) to
unify it.


        Stefan




  reply	other threads:[~2008-12-31  6:28 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 43+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-12-27 18:23 Terminology in multi-tty primitives Eli Zaretskii
2008-12-28  1:00 ` Chong Yidong
2008-12-28  4:09   ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-12-28  4:28     ` Chong Yidong
2008-12-28 19:18       ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-12-28 19:43         ` Juanma Barranquero
2008-12-29  5:31         ` Chong Yidong
2008-12-29 19:26           ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-12-29 22:09         ` Richard M Stallman
2008-12-30  2:18           ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2008-12-30 22:26             ` Richard M Stallman
2008-12-31  2:06               ` Stefan Monnier
2008-12-31  2:20                 ` Dan Nicolaescu
2008-12-31  3:20                   ` Stefan Monnier
2008-12-31  4:29                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-12-31  6:25                       ` Stefan Monnier
2008-12-31 18:47                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-12-31 21:39                           ` Dan Nicolaescu
2008-12-31 21:48                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-12-31 21:55                               ` Dan Nicolaescu
2008-12-31 22:10                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-12-31 23:03                                   ` Dan Nicolaescu
2008-12-31 16:38                 ` Richard M Stallman
2008-12-31 17:22                   ` Stefan Monnier
2008-12-31 19:05                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2009-01-01 17:13                       ` Stefan Monnier
2009-01-02 13:56                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2009-01-03  2:32                           ` Stefan Monnier
2009-01-03  9:59                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2009-01-04  3:14                               ` Stefan Monnier
2009-01-04  3:29                                 ` Chetan Pandya
2009-01-04  3:41                                   ` Jason Rumney
2009-01-04  4:54                                     ` Chetan Pandya
2008-12-30 22:27             ` Richard M Stallman
2008-12-31  5:31               ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2008-12-31  6:28                 ` Stefan Monnier [this message]
2008-12-31  8:33                   ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2008-12-31 14:18                 ` Chong Yidong
2008-12-31 15:42                   ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2008-12-28 17:29 ` Richard M Stallman
2008-12-28 19:33   ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-12-30 19:53   ` Stefan Monnier
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2008-12-27 18:16 Eli Zaretskii

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