From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs,gmane.emacs.pretest.bugs Subject: bug#2350: 23.0.90; compilation-mode inserts output in the wrong location Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2009 11:42:41 -0500 Message-ID: References: <86ab8l3ody.fsf@ubuntu-erich.corp.cozi.com> Reply-To: Stefan Monnier , 2350@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1234890566 31870 80.91.229.12 (17 Feb 2009 17:09:26 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2009 17:09:26 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 2350@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com, emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org To: Eric Hanchrow Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Feb 17 18:10:41 2009 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1LZTSz-0005ZU-1S for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 17 Feb 2009 18:10:41 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:47267 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1LZTRe-0008TA-Tc for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 17 Feb 2009 12:09:18 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1LZTME-00066j-B6 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 17 Feb 2009 12:03:42 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1LZTMB-00065O-I7 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 17 Feb 2009 12:03:41 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=56892 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1LZTMB-00064v-3l for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 17 Feb 2009 12:03:39 -0500 Original-Received: from rzlab.ucr.edu ([138.23.92.77]:54756) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1LZTMA-0004jY-AD for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 17 Feb 2009 12:03:38 -0500 Original-Received: from rzlab.ucr.edu (rzlab.ucr.edu [127.0.0.1]) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id n1HH3ZZb027774; Tue, 17 Feb 2009 09:03:35 -0800 Original-Received: (from debbugs@localhost) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8/Submit) id n1HGo5A5024420; Tue, 17 Feb 2009 08:50:05 -0800 X-Loop: owner@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com Resent-From: Stefan Monnier Resent-To: bug-submit-list@donarmstrong.com Resent-CC: Emacs Bugs Resent-Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2009 16:50:05 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: owner@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com X-Emacs-PR-Message: followup 2350 X-Emacs-PR-Package: emacs X-Emacs-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 2350-submit@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com id=B2350.123488897422986 (code B ref 2350); Tue, 17 Feb 2009 16:50:05 +0000 Original-Received: (at 2350) by emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com; 17 Feb 2009 16:42:54 +0000 X-Spam-Bayes: score:0.5 Bayes not run. spammytokens:Tokens not available. hammytokens:Tokens not available. Original-Received: from chene.dit.umontreal.ca (chene.dit.umontreal.ca [132.204.246.20]) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id n1HGgo7k022980 for <2350@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com>; Tue, 17 Feb 2009 08:42:51 -0800 Original-Received: from alfajor.home (vpn-132-204-232-203.acd.umontreal.ca [132.204.232.203]) by chene.dit.umontreal.ca (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id n1HGgf1i007249; Tue, 17 Feb 2009 11:42:42 -0500 Original-Received: by alfajor.home (Postfix, from userid 20848) id C3327A225A; Tue, 17 Feb 2009 11:42:41 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: <86ab8l3ody.fsf@ubuntu-erich.corp.cozi.com> (Eric Hanchrow's message of "Mon, 16 Feb 2009 16:20:25 -0800") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.0.90 (gnu/linux) X-NAI-Spam-Score: 0 X-NAI-Spam-Rules: 1 Rules triggered RV3212=0 X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) Resent-Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2009 12:03:41 -0500 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:25370 gmane.emacs.pretest.bugs:23928 Archived-At: > This is arguably not a bug, but the behavior I'd expected is indeed > useful: sometimes when a compilation is running, I want to study just > part of the output, and it's convenient to narrow to just the part I > want. With the current behavior, though, in order to avoid getting the > *compilation* buffer's lines all mixed up, I must copy the interesting > region to another buffer. This is a fundamental problem in `narrow': its meaning is ambiguous. Sometimes it is used to pretend that the buffer is really smaller than it is, and other times it's used just to "focus" on a subpart. The implementation (i.e. most of the C and Elisp code) tend to take the first point of view, but sometimes users intend the other. Maybe a good way to provide what the user wants is to introduce a notion of window-local narrowing, or a visual-narrowing. Stefan