From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#15312: Info (point-entered, point-left): Doc incomplete, hence incorrect Date: Fri, 13 Sep 2013 16:32:16 -0400 Message-ID: References: <87ppsiw22k.fsf@gmail.com> <83sixej6iz.fsf@gnu.org> <878uz573kr.fsf@gmail.com> <83fvtck8mv.fsf@gnu.org> <87hadrel77.fsf@gmail.com> <83zjrjiifl.fsf@gnu.org> <877gel1ejy.fsf@gmail.com> <87vc25z1pe.fsf@gmail.com> <83vc24hmtr.fsf@gnu.org> <83six8hfvl.fsf@gnu.org> <83ppschdqx.fsf@gnu.org> <83ob7wh6b4.fsf@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1379104400 16574 80.91.229.3 (13 Sep 2013 20:33:20 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 13 Sep 2013 20:33:20 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 15312@debbugs.gnu.org, kjambunathan@gmail.com To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Sep 13 22:33:22 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1VKa3M-0006do-0m for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 13 Sep 2013 22:33:20 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:51183 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VKa3L-0006e2-M9 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 13 Sep 2013 16:33:19 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:36739) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VKa3C-0006d1-29 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 13 Sep 2013 16:33:17 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VKa34-0000TK-ML for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 13 Sep 2013 16:33:09 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:54601) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VKa34-0000TG-JD for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 13 Sep 2013 16:33:02 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1VKa34-0002nA-6h for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 13 Sep 2013 16:33:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Stefan Monnier Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Fri, 13 Sep 2013 20:33:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 15312 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 15312-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B15312.137910434510680 (code B ref 15312); Fri, 13 Sep 2013 20:33:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 15312) by debbugs.gnu.org; 13 Sep 2013 20:32:25 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:34660 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1VKa2T-0002mC-De for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 13 Sep 2013 16:32:25 -0400 Original-Received: from ironport2-out.teksavvy.com ([206.248.154.182]:12221) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1VKa2R-0002lv-Dv for 15312@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 13 Sep 2013 16:32:23 -0400 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Av4EABK/CFG4rxBo/2dsb2JhbABEvw4Xc4IeAQEEAVYjBQsLNBIUGA0kiB4GwS2RCgOkeoFegxM X-IPAS-Result: Av4EABK/CFG4rxBo/2dsb2JhbABEvw4Xc4IeAQEEAVYjBQsLNBIUGA0kiB4GwS2RCgOkeoFegxM X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.84,565,1355115600"; d="scan'208";a="27680609" Original-Received: from 184-175-16-104.dsl.teksavvy.com (HELO pastel.home) ([184.175.16.104]) by ironport2-out.teksavvy.com with ESMTP/TLS/ADH-AES256-SHA; 13 Sep 2013 16:28:43 -0400 Original-Received: by pastel.home (Postfix, from userid 20848) id 009F462CB9; Fri, 13 Sep 2013 16:32:16 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: <83ob7wh6b4.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Fri, 13 Sep 2013 22:26:07 +0300") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.3.50 (gnu/linux) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:78368 Archived-At: > (Personally, I think this test is just an attempt to optimize costly > text property comparisons when they are not necessary.) Agreed. > To get this right, we need to decide what is the correct behavior in > this case. Do we want the hooks to be called for each point motion, > or do we want them to be called only at point-min and point-max? I think the correct thing to do is too costly for an operation that's performed every time we move point. The right thing to do is to declare point-entered and point-left properties as obsolete and replace them by something like cursor-entered and cursor-left properties which are only checked at command boundaries (or better, checked just before redisplay). Stefan