From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#18589: Why is the the longlines package obsolete? Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2014 14:19:36 -0400 Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1412101295 23616 80.91.229.3 (30 Sep 2014 18:21:35 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2014 18:21:35 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 18589@debbugs.gnu.org To: bruce.connor.am@gmail.com Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Sep 30 20:21:27 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1XZ238-0007y4-C8 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 30 Sep 2014 20:21:22 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:44863 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XZ237-0000xr-U8 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 30 Sep 2014 14:21:21 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:41511) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XZ22x-0000qK-AN for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 30 Sep 2014 14:21:19 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XZ22p-0001Ul-3I for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 30 Sep 2014 14:21:11 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:36837) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XZ22p-0001Uh-0u for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 30 Sep 2014 14:21:03 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1XZ22o-0003Hk-Gd for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 30 Sep 2014 14:21:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Stefan Monnier Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2014 18:21:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 18589 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: notabug Original-Received: via spool by 18589-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B18589.141210120612539 (code B ref 18589); Tue, 30 Sep 2014 18:21:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 18589) by debbugs.gnu.org; 30 Sep 2014 18:20:06 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:56634 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1XZ21s-0003G8-Sb for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 30 Sep 2014 14:20:05 -0400 Original-Received: from mercure.iro.umontreal.ca ([132.204.24.67]:54902) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1XZ21o-0003FX-W6 for 18589@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 30 Sep 2014 14:20:01 -0400 Original-Received: from hidalgo.iro.umontreal.ca (hidalgo.iro.umontreal.ca [132.204.27.50]) by mercure.iro.umontreal.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4CDDE84FC0; Tue, 30 Sep 2014 14:20:00 -0400 (EDT) Original-Received: from lechon.iro.umontreal.ca (lechon.iro.umontreal.ca [132.204.27.242]) by hidalgo.iro.umontreal.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id 430C81E5B8D; Tue, 30 Sep 2014 14:19:36 -0400 (EDT) Original-Received: by lechon.iro.umontreal.ca (Postfix, from userid 20848) id 1DC63B40C1; Tue, 30 Sep 2014 14:19:36 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: (bruce connor am's message of "Tue, 30 Sep 2014 10:57:19 +0100") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.0.50 (gnu/linux) X-DIRO-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-DIRO-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-DIRO-MailScanner-SpamCheck: n'est pas un polluriel, SpamAssassin (score=-2.82, requis 5, autolearn=not spam, ALL_TRUSTED -2.82, MC_TSTLAST 0.00) X-DIRO-MailScanner-From: monnier@iro.umontreal.ca X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:93938 Archived-At: > However, from what I understand, visual-line-mode isn't capable of wraping > lines to be shorter than window width, which was one of longlines' features. You can get the same result by fiddling with the window margins or by splitting your window. I seem to remember someone writing code to do that conveniently, but I wouldn't know where to find it. > Is longlines-mode really redundant? visual-lines-mode provides the feature for which longlines-mode was written, so in this sense it's definitely obsolete/redundant. Of course, by virtue of working differently, it might provide some functionality which visual-lines-mode can't provide. But "lines shorter than the window" is not really one of them. Recently someone pointed out that using longlines-mode in a buffer that contain *very* long lines makes it possible to view&edit the buffer without suffering unbearable performance problems. So maybe in this sense it's not completely obsolete. Stefan