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From: Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
To: Kaushal Modi <kaushal.modi@gmail.com>
Cc: schwab@suse.de, 23949@debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: bug#23949: 25.0.95; Regression in handling error caused by (string-match-p "." nil)
Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2016 09:59:33 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <jwvh9btwsne.fsf-monnier+emacsbugs@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAFyQvY0gEbzFknA8irHS8LSMiRwmTe13mP93UjhkWP_fnLQ3_w@mail.gmail.com> (Kaushal Modi's message of "Wed, 13 Jul 2016 13:10:46 +0000")

>> That's a general problem with the use dynamic binding to pass extra
>> parameters: you end up passing them not just to that one function but
>> also to all other functions called from that one.
> So what is the way forward?

I think it's a fairly fundamental problem that's hard/impossible to "fix".

> Fixing just string-match-p and string-match does not seem to the complete
> solution, because I have seen just let-bound dynamic vars at many places.

A way to fix *some* of the problems is to use concurrency (not yet in
"master"), and make the debugger run in another thread so it's not
affected by the dynamic bindings of the code that signaled the error.

For the more general problem, the only "fix" is to try and remove those
uses of dynamic bindings and replace them with something else, which
seems like a very large undertaking and whose benefits are not
necessarily that clear (the problem being to decide what that "something
else" should be, and the fact that this "something else" will come with
its own problems).

In the case of string-match-p I think we should get rid of
inhibit-changing-match-data and implement string-match-p (and
looking-at-p) some other way.


        Stefan





  reply	other threads:[~2016-07-13 13:59 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 41+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-08-06  1:56 bug#24166: With --eval, errors in string-match-p do not produce backtraces (but errors in string-match do?!) Clément Pit--Claudel
2016-08-06  2:15 ` npostavs
2016-08-06  3:03   ` Clément Pit--Claudel
2016-08-06  7:25   ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-08-06 10:28     ` Noam Postavsky
2016-08-06 10:34       ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-08-06 10:49         ` Noam Postavsky
2016-08-06 11:19           ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-08-06 12:25             ` npostavs
2016-08-07 14:12               ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-08-07 14:27                 ` npostavs
2016-07-11 20:12                   ` bug#23949: 25.0.95; Regression in handling error caused by (string-match-p "." nil) Kaushal Modi
2016-07-12 12:29                     ` Kaushal Modi
2016-07-12 13:14                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-07-12 13:33                         ` Kaushal Modi
2016-07-12 13:37                           ` Kaushal Modi
2016-07-12 14:03                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-07-12 14:01                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-07-12 18:35                             ` Kaushal Modi
2016-07-12 18:55                               ` Noam Postavsky
2016-07-12 19:00                                 ` Kaushal Modi
2016-07-12 19:12                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-07-12 19:10                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-07-12 19:19                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-07-12 19:29                                 ` Kaushal Modi
2016-07-12 20:27                               ` Stefan Monnier
2016-07-13 13:10                                 ` Kaushal Modi
2016-07-13 13:59                                   ` Stefan Monnier [this message]
2016-07-13 15:06                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-07-13 15:03                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-07-13 14:24                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-07-13 14:48                                   ` Stefan Monnier
2016-07-13 15:14                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-07-13 16:00                                       ` Stefan Monnier
2016-07-13 16:18                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-07-13 16:41                                           ` Stefan Monnier
2016-07-13 15:03                                   ` Andreas Schwab
2016-07-13 15:17                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-07-12 14:15                           ` Andreas Schwab
     [not found]                     ` <handler.23949.C.147058007223290.notifdonectrl.2@debbugs.gnu.org>
2016-08-09 15:56                       ` bug#23949: acknowledged by developer (Re: bug#24166: With --eval, errors in string-match-p do not produce backtraces (but errors in string-match do?!)) Kaushal Modi
2016-08-07 15:43                   ` bug#24166: With --eval, errors in string-match-p do not produce backtraces (but errors in string-match do?!) Clément Pit--Claudel

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