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From: Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
To: "Clément Pit-Claudel" <cpitclaudel@gmail.com>
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: interactive feel of Emacs: the need for speed, and -Q [measure.el]
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 2020 16:14:01 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <jwvh7xjchxv.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <2c7cfff7-240f-6444-9a79-b5c36b381272@gmail.com> ("Clément Pit-Claudel"'s message of "Thu, 16 Apr 2020 15:59:04 -0400")

>>>>> Here are my requires:
>>> As a general rule, `require` should not appear in a `~/.emacs`.
>>> It's for use at the top of a library file.
> What's the replacement, then?
>> They should be replaced with the relevant (load-file "...autoloads").
> That doesn't do the same thing at all.  What if you want to use functions
> that are not autoloaded, or macros?

In your ~/.emacs?

Presumably if users can be expected to use a function/macro directly
from ~/.emacs, the package should mark that function/macro as autoloaded
(especially for macros; for functions this can often be avoided if the
function is expected to be called only from with the corresponding mode
hook or an `eval-after-load`).

If not, it's a case that doesn't fall within the "general rule" and then
you'd have to consider the details to know what *should* happen and what
can be done temporarily until the ideal situation can be applied.


        Stefan




  reply	other threads:[~2020-04-16 20:14 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 24+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-03-30  5:00 interactive feel of Emacs: the need for speed, and -Q [measure.el] Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2020-03-30 15:32 ` Drew Adams
2020-04-07 16:25   ` Emanuel Berg via Emacs development discussions.
2020-04-07 16:49     ` Michael Welsh Duggan
2020-04-08  5:51       ` Emanuel Berg via Emacs development discussions.
2020-04-08 14:17         ` Michael Welsh Duggan
2020-04-12  1:16           ` Emanuel Berg via Emacs development discussions.
2020-04-12  2:51             ` Michael Welsh Duggan
2020-04-14 23:00               ` Emanuel Berg via Emacs development discussions.
2020-04-15  1:34                 ` T.V Raman
2020-04-15  2:21                   ` Emanuel Berg via Emacs development discussions.
2020-04-15 14:51                     ` T.V Raman
2020-04-15 15:43             ` Basil L. Contovounesios
2020-04-15 16:06               ` Stefan Monnier
2020-04-16 19:14                 ` Stephen Leake
2020-04-16 19:59                   ` Clément Pit-Claudel
2020-04-16 20:14                     ` Stefan Monnier [this message]
2020-04-23 20:05                       ` chad
2020-04-23 20:43                         ` Stephen Leake
2020-04-23 20:57                         ` Stefan Monnier
2020-04-23 23:35                           ` chad
2020-04-24  3:28                             ` Stefan Monnier
2020-04-17  8:48                     ` Stephen Leake
2020-04-16 20:04                   ` Stefan Monnier

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