From: Stefan Monnier via "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" <bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
To: Ihor Radchenko <yantar92@posteo.net>
Cc: bzg@gnu.org, dmitry@gutov.dev, Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>,
62762@debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: bug#62762: 'make' often errors with "Org version mismatch" after pulling a new version of the code
Date: Sat, 22 Apr 2023 10:30:01 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <jwvh6t82ejn.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87pm8a8dx4.fsf@localhost> (Ihor Radchenko's message of "Tue, 11 Apr 2023 18:35:51 +0000")
> I don't. Say, why not to store hash of the macro sources in the byte
> code and verifying the hash when re-compilation is requested? Though I
> am not that much familiar with Emacs source compilation.
In theory it's possible. Nobody has worked on it :-)
Note that it's not just macros but defsubsts as well.
> Sure, in the context of Emacs compilation. The code in question is
> mostly aiming at newer Org installed on top of built-in Org. We are
> consistently getting issues related to incorrect macro expansion and
> mixing different Org versions.
Someone™ *really* needs to sit down and fix the underlying problem in
`package.el`. The current "solution" in `package.el` *should* work (it
should reload the new `org-macs.el` on top of the old one, which
I think should avoid all the problems seen in practice for Org), so it
seems we just have a plain bug in the implementation of our "solution".
[ Which is good: it should be simple to fix, compared to trying to come
up with another solution. ]
>> Anyway, any other words of wisdom? Like which org/*.el files actually
>> need to be recompiled in this case? Or are you saying all of them
>> need to be recompiled?
[ BTW, `rm lisp/org/*.elc` is a better solution since it avoids changing
timestamps on all those .el files. ]
> What we might do to work around the problem is detecting Emacs compilation
> and disable the check. Is there a way to detect that Emacs source is
> being compiled from Elisp?
This sounds like adding more brittle hacks on top of brittle hacks.
>> I also am not sure I understand the logic of this test: AFAIU it only
>> tests the version string, not the actual macros that might have been
>> changed. Are you saying that Org bumps its version string each time
>> _any_ Org macro is modified?
>
> No. We originally tested by commit hash. Version string check is a
> trade-off between the problem with ELPA builds (see the links in my
> previous message) and the need to detect mixed installation problems.
BTW, have you tried to use a test along the lines of: look through
`load-history` to see if we loaded org-* files from a different directory
than the one in which `load-file-name` resides?
[ We may need to adjust the test to account for the `package.el`
"solution" which will result in the above test detecting a mixed
version situation even though it "should" work correctly. ]
Stefan
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2023-04-10 23:09 bug#62762: 'make' often errors with "Org version mismatch" after pulling a new version of the code Dmitry Gutov
2023-04-11 6:10 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-04-11 7:18 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-04-11 8:03 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-04-11 18:35 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-04-11 18:51 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-04-11 18:59 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-04-11 19:28 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-04-11 19:37 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-04-12 9:03 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-04-12 9:21 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-04-13 8:34 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-04-13 8:37 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-04-13 14:20 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-04-13 14:55 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-04-13 15:05 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-04-15 10:48 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-04-15 11:36 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-04-15 11:40 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-04-15 11:57 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-04-15 12:08 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-04-21 11:44 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-04-21 15:28 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-04-22 9:49 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-04-22 12:39 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-04-22 12:48 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-04-22 14:32 ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-04-23 8:55 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-04-24 11:21 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-04-24 12:29 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-11-24 17:43 ` Dmitry Gutov
2023-11-24 18:54 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-11-24 18:56 ` Dmitry Gutov
2023-11-25 7:08 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-11-25 12:38 ` Dmitry Gutov
2023-11-25 12:59 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-11-25 13:55 ` Dmitry Gutov
2023-04-22 14:30 ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors [this message]
2023-04-22 14:59 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-04-23 9:21 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-05-01 1:48 ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-05-01 10:25 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-05-01 16:49 ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-05-02 11:26 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-05-02 13:12 ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-05-03 10:30 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-05-03 21:37 ` Alan Mackenzie
2023-05-04 5:35 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-05-04 14:02 ` Alan Mackenzie
2023-05-04 14:10 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-05-04 15:31 ` Max Nikulin
2023-05-04 21:53 ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-05-05 4:18 ` Max Nikulin
2023-05-05 5:27 ` Max Nikulin
2023-05-05 6:46 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-05-05 7:27 ` Max Nikulin
2023-05-05 10:38 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-05-05 11:20 ` Max Nikulin
2023-05-05 11:33 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-05-05 15:33 ` Max Nikulin
2023-05-05 15:49 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-05-05 16:46 ` Max Nikulin
2023-05-05 17:48 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-05-05 18:26 ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-05-11 15:14 ` bug#62762: circular dependencies in elisp files and make Max Nikulin
2023-05-11 15:20 ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-05-11 15:59 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-05-12 14:59 ` Max Nikulin
2023-05-12 15:10 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-05-12 15:26 ` Max Nikulin
2023-05-12 16:01 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-05-13 3:08 ` Max Nikulin
2023-05-13 6:50 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-05-13 7:34 ` Max Nikulin
2023-05-13 8:46 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-05-13 10:25 ` Max Nikulin
2023-05-13 10:58 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-05-13 11:21 ` Max Nikulin
2023-05-13 14:49 ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-05-13 14:48 ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-05-15 10:11 ` Max Nikulin
2023-05-15 11:20 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-05-15 13:00 ` Max Nikulin
2023-05-15 15:00 ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-05-13 15:43 ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-05-05 14:29 ` bug#62762: 'make' often errors with "Org version mismatch" after pulling a new version of the code Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-05-05 16:37 ` Max Nikulin
2023-05-05 18:17 ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-05-06 5:25 ` Max Nikulin
2023-05-06 13:02 ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-05-07 16:23 ` Max Nikulin
2023-05-07 21:57 ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-05-08 10:05 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-05-10 14:52 ` Max Nikulin
2023-06-23 12:02 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-06-25 14:37 ` Max Nikulin
2023-06-27 10:59 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-06-27 11:40 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-06-27 12:08 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-06-27 12:12 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-06-27 12:30 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-06-27 12:51 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-06-27 16:11 ` Max Nikulin
2023-07-04 12:20 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-05-06 6:00 ` Max Nikulin
2023-05-06 7:51 ` bug#62762: Incremental builds and Lisp files dependencies " Eli Zaretskii
2023-05-06 15:50 ` Max Nikulin
2023-05-06 16:26 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-05-07 2:45 ` Max Nikulin
2023-05-07 5:34 ` Eli Zaretskii
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