From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Android port of Emacs Date: Sat, 01 Jul 2023 10:35:11 -0400 Message-ID: References: <83v8fnslfz.fsf@gnu.org> <121acd3282a64abf77d6@heytings.org> <215b00d2595bec215977@heytings.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="34632"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Gregory Heytings Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sat Jul 01 16:36:13 2023 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1qFbhr-0008ij-NZ for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sat, 01 Jul 2023 16:36:11 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qFbgz-0002hb-7F; Sat, 01 Jul 2023 10:35:17 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qFbgx-0002gg-Lh for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 01 Jul 2023 10:35:15 -0400 Original-Received: from mailscanner.iro.umontreal.ca ([132.204.25.50]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qFbgw-0002Ox-0t for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 01 Jul 2023 10:35:15 -0400 Original-Received: from pmg2.iro.umontreal.ca (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by pmg2.iro.umontreal.ca (Proxmox) with ESMTP id C235F8008E; Sat, 1 Jul 2023 10:35:12 -0400 (EDT) Original-Received: from mail01.iro.umontreal.ca (unknown [172.31.2.1]) by pmg2.iro.umontreal.ca (Proxmox) with ESMTP id B61DE80148; Sat, 1 Jul 2023 10:35:11 -0400 (EDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=iro.umontreal.ca; s=mail; t=1688222111; bh=ZVl0v3pI1a3Lezj7w5ZEYVhCjJ2tkcXBWG9AbpY7T8s=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:In-Reply-To:References:Date:From; b=QJB2//fD5OEVXyOoIrO6pzicCUP+h0RQfOOAFTAzr1sTWM0qqkbfs8MMkG509Cgbc /AceG2o1Ph5+p0itt6sLeT7hdi57PoCHT8rFb2CzNwNl74KMIsUKXda+61m3J2Y93C y96HTyn928psEpZK6q8QAl4up9MdvYARyp/rxPcmqURpCg1yNqcK+4bkV2NTl3vyhh spkdM7vRz86lKYEbyREq8psnzFUPpmEtdK271x/CFtV69MPtJff9uOR5S00FPYZ9D3 Hbuat6mwuNC325VlW6A2L4lgcxO0vvSekpl6ddaW+MpBXLSJQSDimSZqf06aHuo4hC mh0obt68xd5kg== Original-Received: from pastel (69-165-155-162.dsl.teksavvy.com [69.165.155.162]) by mail01.iro.umontreal.ca (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 919241204E5; Sat, 1 Jul 2023 10:35:11 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: <215b00d2595bec215977@heytings.org> (Gregory Heytings's message of "Sat, 01 Jul 2023 14:13:58 +0000") Received-SPF: pass client-ip=132.204.25.50; envelope-from=monnier@iro.umontreal.ca; helo=mailscanner.iro.umontreal.ca X-Spam_score_int: -42 X-Spam_score: -4.3 X-Spam_bar: ---- X-Spam_report: (-4.3 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE=-0.01 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:307330 Archived-At: [ Talking about Emacs-on-Android via Termux:X11: ] >> FWIW, I tried to use that but found it unbearable. I can't remember all >> the annoyances, but there were many, and AFAIK there is no way for *us* to >> fix them. [...] > More seriously, IMO "unbearable" is too vague. Which X server did you try, > with which keyboard if you used a soft keyboard, and with which Emacs > version? And which annoyances do you remember? The Termux:X11 X server is > under active development, so I'd suggest to try again, and to report the > annoyances you still experience. I don't see Termux:X11 as a good long term strategy for Emacs support on Android, and I find the current `feature/android` already works better so it's not a good short term option for me any more either. So I have currently no incentive to contribute bug reports to that project. But I'm glad it exists and I wish it well :-) Stefan