bug#64927: 30.0.50; kill-ring with no X

bug#64927: 30.0.50; kill-ring with no X

[Colin Baxter]

1. Emacs-30.0.50 compiled --with-x-toolkit=no
2. emacs -Q <RET>
3. C-x C-f test.txt <RET>
4. Enter some text, e.g. "This is a test."
5. Enter some more text, e.g. "This is another test."
6. Place the cursor somewhere and press <F10>
7. Select Edit --> Paste from kill menu --> This is test.
8. popup-menu: Invalid `key-parse' syntax: %S: ["This is a test"]

This only seems to effect "no X" emacs.

Colin Baxter.




In GNU Emacs 30.0.50 (build 1, i686-pc-linux-gnu, cairo version
 1.14.8) of 2023-07-29 built on bluestar
Repository revision: deb74de4f2e6a16b81663cbd95f97bfc9e24e467
Repository branch: master
Windowing system distributor 'The X.Org Foundation', version 11.0.11902000
System Description: Debian GNU/Linux 9 (stretch)

Configured using:
 'configure --prefix=/home/redknight/local/opt/emacs-dev
 --with-x-toolkit=no --with-mailutils --without-sqlite3
 --without-sound --with-cairo --with-imagemagick --without-xaw3d
 --with-native-compilation=no --without-toolkit-scroll-bars'

Configured features:
ACL CAIRO DBUS FREETYPE GIF GLIB GMP GNUTLS GPM GSETTINGS HARFBUZZ
IMAGEMAGICK JPEG JSON LCMS2 LIBOTF LIBSELINUX LIBSYSTEMD LIBXML2
M17N_FLT MODULES NOTIFY INOTIFY OLDXMENU PDUMPER PNG RSVG SECCOMP
THREADS TIFF X11 XDBE XIM XINPUT2 XPM ZLIB

Important settings:
  value of $LANG: en_GB.UTF-8
  locale-coding-system: utf-8

Major mode: Eshell

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  eshell-hist-mode: t
  eshell-cmpl-mode: t
  global-auto-revert-mode: t
  TeX-source-correlate-mode: t
  auto-insert-mode: t
  server-mode: t
  global-emojify-mode: t
  emojify-mode: t
  eshell-proc-mode: t
  eshell-arg-mode: t
  savehist-mode: t
  display-time-mode: t
  global-so-long-mode: t
  show-paren-mode: t
  electric-indent-mode: t
  mouse-wheel-mode: t
  file-name-shadow-mode: t
  global-font-lock-mode: t
  font-lock-mode: t
  blink-cursor-mode: t
  column-number-mode: t
  line-number-mode: t
  transient-mark-mode: t
  auto-composition-mode: t
  auto-encryption-mode: t
  auto-compression-mode: t

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bug#64927: 30.0.50; kill-ring with no X

[Colin Baxter]

>>>>> Colin Baxter <m43cap@yandex.com> writes:

    > 1. Emacs-30.0.50 compiled --with-x-toolkit=no
    > 2. emacs -Q <RET>
    > 3. C-x C-f test.txt <RET>
    > 4. Enter some text, e.g. "This is a test."
    > 5. Enter some more text, e.g. "This is another test."
    > 6. Place the cursor somewhere and press <F10>
    > 7. Select Edit --> Paste from kill menu --> This is test.
    > 8. popup-menu: Invalid
    > `key-parse' syntax: %S: ["This is a test"]

Forget to mention that the text 4, 5 has of course to be copied to the
kill-ring using C-<space> M-w. Sorry about that!

Colin Baxter.

bug#64927: 30.0.50; kill-ring with no X

[Eli Zaretskii]

> From: Colin Baxter <m43cap@yandex.com>
> Date: Sat, 29 Jul 2023 12:25:16 +0100
> 
> >>>>> Colin Baxter <m43cap@yandex.com> writes:
> 
>     > 1. Emacs-30.0.50 compiled --with-x-toolkit=no
>     > 2. emacs -Q <RET>
>     > 3. C-x C-f test.txt <RET>
>     > 4. Enter some text, e.g. "This is a test."
>     > 5. Enter some more text, e.g. "This is another test."
>     > 6. Place the cursor somewhere and press <F10>
>     > 7. Select Edit --> Paste from kill menu --> This is test.
>     > 8. popup-menu: Invalid
>     > `key-parse' syntax: %S: ["This is a test"]
> 
> Forget to mention that the text 4, 5 has of course to be copied to the
> kill-ring using C-<space> M-w. Sorry about that!

I can reproduce the same problem on a TTY frame by activating the menu
with F10, but not if the menu is activated with a mouse (on a
text-mode terminal that has a mouse).  Do you see the same problem in
the non-toolkit build if you use the mouse instead of the keyboard?

This also affects Emacs 29, and is a regression from Emacs 28, which
is related to the use of the new key-* functions.  Specifically, the
error is signaled by the call to key-valid-p issued by
possibly_translate_key_sequence, which is a subroutine of lookup-key.
The argument KEY of possibly_translate_key_sequence in this case is a
vector whose only element is a string with text properties:

  [#("create a file" 0 13 (face font-lock-comment-face fontified t))]

key-valid-p doesn't support such strings, it expects strings that
describe key sequences.

Significantly, possibly_translate_key_sequence calls key-parse after
it calls key-valid-p, and key-parse copes with this string quite well.
So I'm thinking of removing the key-valid-p call from
possibly_translate_key_sequence, since I believe key-parse can detect
any problems by itself?  Stefan, WDYT?

Colin, can you try such a change and see if it produces any
regressions?

bug#64927: 30.0.50; kill-ring with no X

[Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors]

> This also affects Emacs 29, and is a regression from Emacs 28, which
> is related to the use of the new key-* functions.  Specifically, the
> error is signaled by the call to key-valid-p issued by
> possibly_translate_key_sequence, which is a subroutine of lookup-key.
> The argument KEY of possibly_translate_key_sequence in this case is a
> vector whose only element is a string with text properties:
>
>   [#("create a file" 0 13 (face font-lock-comment-face fontified t))]
>
> key-valid-p doesn't support such strings, it expects strings that
> describe key sequences.
>
> Significantly, possibly_translate_key_sequence calls key-parse after
> it calls key-valid-p, and key-parse copes with this string quite well.

No, `key-parse` doesn't handle this correctly either.

The ["create a file"] above is an "internal" key-sequence of length
1 that happens to use a string as the sole key.

`possibly_translate_key_sequence` instead is trying to handle the new
"external" key-sequence format [<KBDSTRING>] where <KBDSTRING> is using
the `kbd` syntax, i.e. the string is not itself a key but represents
a key-sequence.

IOW, this is a fundamental incompatibility introduced by the support for
this new [<KBDSTRING>] format in `define-key`: keys cannot be arbitrary
objects any more (among other things they can't be strings any more).


        Stefan

bug#64927: 30.0.50; kill-ring with no X

[Eli Zaretskii]

> From: Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
> Cc: m43cap@yandex.com,  64927@debbugs.gnu.org,  Lars Ingebrigtsen
>  <larsi@gnus.org>
> Date: Thu, 03 Aug 2023 11:11:24 -0400
> 
> The ["create a file"] above is an "internal" key-sequence of length
> 1 that happens to use a string as the sole key.
> 
> `possibly_translate_key_sequence` instead is trying to handle the new
> "external" key-sequence format [<KBDSTRING>] where <KBDSTRING> is using
> the `kbd` syntax, i.e. the string is not itself a key but represents
> a key-sequence.
> 
> IOW, this is a fundamental incompatibility introduced by the support for
> this new [<KBDSTRING>] format in `define-key`: keys cannot be arbitrary
> objects any more (among other things they can't be strings any more).

Hmm... that's bad, isn't it?  Menus always supported strings like
that, so we have no lost that?  Do you see any reasonably practical
way to get that back?

And here we are not calling define-key, we are calling lookup-key
instead, btw.

bug#64927: 30.0.50; kill-ring with no X

[Eli Zaretskii]

> Cc: m43cap@yandex.com, larsi@gnus.org, 64927@debbugs.gnu.org
> Date: Thu, 03 Aug 2023 19:00:18 +0300
> From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
> 
> Hmm... that's bad, isn't it?  Menus always supported strings like
> that, so we have no lost that?  Do you see any reasonably practical
                   ^^
That was supposed to be "now", sorry.

bug#64927: 30.0.50; kill-ring with no X

[Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors]

>> IOW, this is a fundamental incompatibility introduced by the support for
>> this new [<KBDSTRING>] format in `define-key`: keys cannot be arbitrary
>> objects any more (among other things they can't be strings any more).
> Hmm... that's bad, isn't it?  Menus always supported strings like
> that, so we have now lost that?

Yes, tho admittedly such unconventional keys had various rough corners
(e.g. they triggered a few bugs over the years).

I think this problem was noticed when the new feature was introduced and
we fixed the generation of the kill-ring menu, but apparently nobody
fixed the problem in the second part of the code which generates the
kill-ring (I remember I mentioned at the time that we should try and
consolidate those two code paths).

> Do you see any reasonably practical way to get that back?

The best we can do is to use `key-valid-p` as a best-effort test to
decide whether we're in the presence of the new or the old format, but
it will inevitably suffer from false positives/negatives.


        Stefan

bug#64927: 30.0.50; kill-ring with no X

[Eli Zaretskii]

> From: Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
> Cc: m43cap@yandex.com,  64927@debbugs.gnu.org,  larsi@gnus.org
> Date: Thu, 03 Aug 2023 12:30:36 -0400
> 
> I think this problem was noticed when the new feature was introduced and
> we fixed the generation of the kill-ring menu, but apparently nobody
> fixed the problem in the second part of the code which generates the
> kill-ring (I remember I mentioned at the time that we should try and
> consolidate those two code paths).

Looks like that, yes.

> > Do you see any reasonably practical way to get that back?
> 
> The best we can do is to use `key-valid-p` as a best-effort test to
> decide whether we're in the presence of the new or the old format, but
> it will inevitably suffer from false positives/negatives.

Not sure I understand: if key-valid-p returns nil, what do you suggest
to do with "keys" such as those produced in the scenario of this bug
report?

bug#64927: 30.0.50; kill-ring with no X

[Colin Baxter]

>>>>> Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> writes:

    >> From: Colin Baxter <m43cap@yandex.com> Date: Sat, 29 Jul 2023
    >> 12:25:16 +0100
    >> 
    >>>>>>> Colin Baxter <m43cap@yandex.com> writes:
    >> 
    >> > 1. Emacs-30.0.50 compiled --with-x-toolkit=no > 2. emacs -Q
    >> <RET> > 3. C-x C-f test.txt <RET> > 4. Enter some text,
    >> e.g. "This is a test."  > 5. Enter some more text, e.g. "This is
    >> another test."  > 6. Place the cursor somewhere and press <F10> >
    >> 7. Select Edit --> Paste from kill menu --> This is test.  >
    >> 8. popup-menu: Invalid > `key-parse' syntax: %S: ["This is a
    >> test"]
    >> 
    >> Forget to mention that the text 4, 5 has of course to be copied
    >> to the kill-ring using C-<space> M-w. Sorry about that!

    > I can reproduce the same problem on a TTY frame by activating the
    > menu with F10, but not if the menu is activated with a mouse (on a
    > text-mode terminal that has a mouse).  Do you see the same problem
    > in the non-toolkit build if you use the mouse instead of the
    > keyboard?

The issue remains whether I use a mouse to mark the region or C-<space>.

    > This also affects Emacs 29, and is a regression from Emacs 28,
    > which is related to the use of the new key-* functions.
    > Specifically, the error is signaled by the call to key-valid-p
    > issued by possibly_translate_key_sequence, which is a subroutine
    > of lookup-key.  The argument KEY of
    > possibly_translate_key_sequence in this case is a vector whose
    > only element is a string with text properties:

    >   [#("create a file" 0 13 (face font-lock-comment-face fontified
    > t))]

    > key-valid-p doesn't support such strings, it expects strings that
    > describe key sequences.

    > Significantly, possibly_translate_key_sequence calls key-parse
    > after it calls key-valid-p, and key-parse copes with this string
    > quite well.  So I'm thinking of removing the key-valid-p call from
    > possibly_translate_key_sequence, since I believe key-parse can
    > detect any problems by itself?  Stefan, WDYT?

    > Colin, can you try such a change and see if it produces any
    > regressions?

I will try, but I might be out of my depth here. I've found the
"possibly_translate_key_sequence" line in keymap.c, but what part of the
c program should I then comment out and re-build?

Colin Baxter.

bug#64927: 30.0.50; kill-ring with no X

[Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors]

>> The best we can do is to use `key-valid-p` as a best-effort test to
>> decide whether we're in the presence of the new or the old format, but
>> it will inevitably suffer from false positives/negatives.
>
> Not sure I understand: if key-valid-p returns nil, what do you suggest
> to do with "keys" such as those produced in the scenario of this bug
> report?

I suggest we do:

    diff --git a/src/keymap.c b/src/keymap.c
    index da2af98c2d6..eec3e884935 100644
    --- a/src/keymap.c
    +++ b/src/keymap.c
    @@ -1066,7 +1066,7 @@ possibly_translate_key_sequence (Lisp_Object key, ptrdiff_t *length)
     		  build_string ("`key-valid-p' is not defined, so this syntax can't be used: %s"),
     		  key);
           if (NILP (call1 (Qkey_valid_p, AREF (key, 0))))
    -        xsignal2 (Qerror, build_string ("Invalid `key-parse' syntax: %S"), key);
    +        return key;
           key = call1 (Qkey_parse, AREF (key, 0));
           *length = CHECK_VECTOR_OR_STRING (key);
           if (*length == 0)

With this change,

    (let ((map (make-sparse-keymap))) (define-key map ["he"] 'hello) map)

returns (keymap ("he" . hello)) as before, and emits a message:

    Key sequence contains invalid event he

whereas

    (let ((map (make-sparse-keymap))) (define-key map ["h e"] 'hello) map)

returns (keymap (104 keymap (101 . hello))).

I think this new [KBDSTRING] syntax was probably a mistake, in
retrospect: it made sense at the time, but we should have removed it
afterwards when we introduced the new `key-*` functions.


        Stefan

bug#64927: 30.0.50; kill-ring with no X

[Colin Baxter]

>>>>> Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors <Stefan> writes:

    >>> The best we can do is to use `key-valid-p` as a best-effort test
    >>> to decide whether we're in the presence of the new or the old
    >>> format, but it will inevitably suffer from false
    >>> positives/negatives.
    >> 
    >> Not sure I understand: if key-valid-p returns nil, what do you
    >> suggest to do with "keys" such as those produced in the scenario
    >> of this bug report?

    > I suggest we do:

    >     diff --git a/src/keymap.c b/src/keymap.c index
    > da2af98c2d6..eec3e884935 100644 --- a/src/keymap.c +++
    > b/src/keymap.c @@ -1066,7 +1066,7 @@
    > possibly_translate_key_sequence (Lisp_Object key, ptrdiff_t
    > *length) build_string ("`key-valid-p' is not defined, so this
    > syntax can't be used: %s"), key); if (NILP (call1 (Qkey_valid_p,
    > AREF (key, 0)))) - xsignal2 (Qerror, build_string ("Invalid
    > `key-parse' syntax: %S"), key); + return key; key = call1
    > (Qkey_parse, AREF (key, 0)); *length = CHECK_VECTOR_OR_STRING
    > (key); if (*length == 0)

    > With this change,

    >     (let ((map (make-sparse-keymap))) (define-key map ["he"]
    > 'hello) map)

    > returns (keymap ("he" . hello)) as before, and emits a message:

    >     Key sequence contains invalid event he

    > whereas

    >     (let ((map (make-sparse-keymap))) (define-key map ["h e"]
    > 'hello) map)

    > returns (keymap (104 keymap (101 . hello))).

I have applied this patch and it seems to work.

1. In a test file select a region with mouse and save to kill-ring.
2. Select another region via C-<space> and save to kill-ring.
3. Paste both regions in another part of test file using mouse via
   <F10> --> Edit --> Paste from kill-ring Menu
4. Success.

Colin Baxter.

bug#64927: 30.0.50; kill-ring with no X

[Eli Zaretskii]

> From: Colin Baxter <m43cap@yandex.com>
> Cc: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>,  Stefan Monnier
>  <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>,  larsi@gnus.org,  64927@debbugs.gnu.org
> Date: Fri, 04 Aug 2023 07:14:07 +0100
> 
> >>>>> Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors <Stefan> writes:
> 
>     > I suggest we do:
> 
>     >     diff --git a/src/keymap.c b/src/keymap.c index
>     > da2af98c2d6..eec3e884935 100644 --- a/src/keymap.c +++
>     > b/src/keymap.c @@ -1066,7 +1066,7 @@
>     > possibly_translate_key_sequence (Lisp_Object key, ptrdiff_t
>     > *length) build_string ("`key-valid-p' is not defined, so this
>     > syntax can't be used: %s"), key); if (NILP (call1 (Qkey_valid_p,
>     > AREF (key, 0)))) - xsignal2 (Qerror, build_string ("Invalid
>     > `key-parse' syntax: %S"), key); + return key; key = call1
>     > (Qkey_parse, AREF (key, 0)); *length = CHECK_VECTOR_OR_STRING
>     > (key); if (*length == 0)
> 
>     > With this change,
> 
>     >     (let ((map (make-sparse-keymap))) (define-key map ["he"]
>     > 'hello) map)
> 
>     > returns (keymap ("he" . hello)) as before, and emits a message:
> 
>     >     Key sequence contains invalid event he
> 
>     > whereas
> 
>     >     (let ((map (make-sparse-keymap))) (define-key map ["h e"]
>     > 'hello) map)
> 
>     > returns (keymap (104 keymap (101 . hello))).
> 
> I have applied this patch and it seems to work.
> 
> 1. In a test file select a region with mouse and save to kill-ring.
> 2. Select another region via C-<space> and save to kill-ring.
> 3. Paste both regions in another part of test file using mouse via
>    <F10> --> Edit --> Paste from kill-ring Menu
> 4. Success.

Thanks, I've now installed this on the emacs-29 branch, and I'm
closing this bug.