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From: Stefan Monnier via "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" <bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
Cc: zyd <zyd-p@proton.me>, 73505@debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: bug#73505: EIEIO manual out of date, doesn't reflect current functionality
Date: Fri, 27 Sep 2024 08:48:07 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <jwvh6a11d9l.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <86setl8tue.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Fri, 27 Sep 2024 09:59:53 +0300")

> But this isn't true at all, EIEIO has both of these features fully
> functional in fact.

It's both true and false:

- EIEIO "has" none of those things because the defmethod stuff is now
  provided by something else than EIEIO.  EIEIO only provides `defclass`
  and associated functions (e.g. `slot-value`).

- But yes, the text is out of date because you can now use these
  features (with EIEIO objects, with defstruct objects, with
  oclosure objects, ...).

> The EIEIO manual states that it provides method functionality for
> Emacs Lisp.  The manual has whole sections devoted to both
> cl-defmethod and cl-defgeneric and refers to them as part of its
> corpus.  It has documentation for both.
>
>     (info "(eieio) Generics")
>     (info "(eieio) Methods")

This structure is a left-over from when generics were provided by EIEIO.
We should clarify.

> And as far as I can tell there is no eieio-specific defmethod or
> defgeneric macros that aren't cl-defmethod and cl-defgeneric.
> So I really doubt that I'm in error here.

Actually, `eieio-compat` still provides the old `defmethod` and
`defgeneric` (without `cl-`)


        Stefan






  parent reply	other threads:[~2024-09-27 12:48 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 8+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-09-26 22:45 bug#73505: EIEIO manual out of date, doesn't reflect current functionality zyd via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-09-27  6:59 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-09-27  8:08   ` zyd via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-09-27 12:48   ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors [this message]
2024-09-27 13:01     ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-09-27 13:15     ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-09-27 13:23       ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-09-27 14:35         ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors

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