From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: lua mode Date: Tue, 27 Sep 2005 12:09:39 -0400 Message-ID: References: <20050927054120.GB2385@www.trapp.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1127837964 8737 80.91.229.2 (27 Sep 2005 16:19:24 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 27 Sep 2005 16:19:24 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Christian.Vogler@gallaudet.edu, emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Sep 27 18:19:22 2005 Return-path: Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1EKI6a-0002lQ-8r for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 27 Sep 2005 18:14:56 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1EKI6Z-00061m-LE for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 27 Sep 2005 12:14:55 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1EKI4E-0004bn-3F for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 27 Sep 2005 12:12:31 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1EKI44-0004VX-Tp for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 27 Sep 2005 12:12:21 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1EKI44-0004Ob-2O for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 27 Sep 2005 12:12:20 -0400 Original-Received: from [132.204.24.67] (helo=mercure.iro.umontreal.ca) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1EKI1g-00020Y-8d for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 27 Sep 2005 12:09:52 -0400 Original-Received: from hidalgo.iro.umontreal.ca (hidalgo.iro.umontreal.ca [132.204.27.50]) by mercure.iro.umontreal.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id 013442CF524; Tue, 27 Sep 2005 12:09:52 -0400 (EDT) Original-Received: from asado.iro.umontreal.ca (asado.iro.umontreal.ca [132.204.24.84]) by hidalgo.iro.umontreal.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id 629B84AC00A; Tue, 27 Sep 2005 12:09:39 -0400 (EDT) Original-Received: by asado.iro.umontreal.ca (Postfix, from userid 20848) id 42452F69C4; Tue, 27 Sep 2005 12:09:39 -0400 (EDT) Original-To: tomas@tuxteam.de (Tomas Zerolo) In-Reply-To: <20050927054120.GB2385@www.trapp.net> (Tomas Zerolo's message of "Tue, 27 Sep 2005 07:41:20 +0200") User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.0.50 (gnu/linux) X-DIRO-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-DIRO-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-DIRO-MailScanner-SpamCheck: n'est pas un polluriel, SpamAssassin (score=-4.734, requis 5, AWL -0.06, BAYES_00 -4.90, OFFERS_ETC 0.23) X-MailScanner-From: monnier@iro.umontreal.ca X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:43291 Archived-At: > I'm an user of Lua mode, written by Christian Vogler et al. Yesterday I > contacted him, asking what he thinks about integrating it into the Emacs > distribution. > He kindly answered that he would be fine with that but then would have to > hand off maintenance due to lack of time. So I offered to do the > footwork (meaning he did the hard work and I make now the noise ;-) > Christian is OK signing papers, I'd have to approach the other authors > bfore anything goes (I'd have to sign papers as well). > Now I haven't maintained any Emacs package up to now, so I would very > much appreciate your guidance, if this thing happens. As you obviously know, one part of Emacs integration is the legal paperwork. You seem to understand this part. I wouldn't worry too much about the few people who might refuse to sign papers, who by the way are not all related to XEmacs and far from all XEmacs people refuse to sign paperwork, so it's unfair to associate the problem with the XEmacs project. When I collected the paperwork for PCL-CVS, I've had to deal with one author who wouldn't sign papers and another who I simply wasn't able to reach. The end result was simply that I had to check more carefully their contribution and remove/rewrite the corresponding code (PCL-CVS was an old package, so some of the code could be removed without affecting anything because it had been superceded anyway). > One thing Christian wishes is that the package continues to work well > with XEmacs. Thus I might need special guidance with those of you > experienced in maintenance of such dual packages. This part of the maintenance is up to you. Basically, being integrated in Emacs means that it will live in the Emacs CVS repository, that Emacs maintainers may make minor changes in it without warning (which may temporarily break XEmacs compatibility or even compatibility with older Emacsen), and that it has to adapt to the freeze state before a release (but you can keep on working if you do it on a branch, anyway). I.e. you can make XEmacs specific changes just fine. Stefan