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From: Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
To: Thomas Lord <lord@emf.net>
Cc: Chong Yidong <cyd@stupidchicken.com>,
	192@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org,
	David Koppelman <koppel@ece.lsu.edu>,
	Bruno Haible <bruno@clisp.org>
Subject: bug#192: regexp does not work as documented
Date: Mon, 12 May 2008 09:43:49 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <jwvfxsnpryp.fsf-monnier+emacsbugreports__47555.1427844495$1210600377$gmane$org@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4827B9B8.30406@emf.net> (Thomas Lord's message of "Sun, 11 May 2008 20:30:00 -0700")

> years ago, is to consider *offline* DFA conversion (a la 'lex(1)').

That's what I do in lex.el.

> The advantage of offline (batch) conversion is that you can burn a lot
> of cycles on DFA minimization and, if your offline converter
> terminates, you've got a reliably linear matcher.  The disadvantages
> for *many* uses of regular expressions in Emacs should be pretty
> obvious.  For something like font-lock, where the regular expressions
> don't change that often, that might be a good approach -- precompile
> a minimal DFA and then add support for "regular expression
> continuations" when using those tables.

I do not intend to replace src/regexp.c with a matcher based on offline
DFA conversion.  Actually, the need to support backrefs makes it pretty
much impossible (tho I'm sure there's a way to adapt an offline DFA so
it can be used with backrefs), and most importantly it has too different
performance characteristics.  More specifically, the compilation step
should be made explicit.

In any case I think you did answer my question: an offline DFA matcher
is fine, the worst case is not that common and can be worked around.
This is not that different from the current backtracking matcher.


        Stefan


PS: The original motivation for a DFA-matcher is to extend syntax-tables
so they can match match multi-char elements.






  reply	other threads:[~2008-05-12 13:43 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 50+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-05-06  4:20 regexp does not work as documented Chong Yidong
2008-05-06 11:35 ` Bruno Haible
2008-05-06 12:12   ` martin rudalics
2008-05-10 19:18     ` bug#192: " David Koppelman
2008-05-10 19:18     ` David Koppelman
2008-05-10 20:13       ` bug#192: " David Koppelman
2008-05-10 20:13       ` David Koppelman
2008-05-11  7:40         ` bug#192: " martin rudalics
2008-05-11  7:40         ` martin rudalics
2008-05-11 14:27           ` Chong Yidong
2008-05-11 15:36             ` bug#192: " David Koppelman
2008-05-11 15:36             ` David Koppelman
2008-05-11 18:44               ` bug#192: " Stefan Monnier
2008-05-11 18:44               ` Stefan Monnier
2008-05-11 19:09                 ` David Koppelman
2008-05-12  1:28                   ` Stefan Monnier
2008-05-12 15:03                     ` bug#192: " David Koppelman
2008-05-12 15:03                     ` David Koppelman
2008-05-12 16:29                       ` bug#192: " Stefan Monnier
2008-05-12 16:29                       ` Stefan Monnier
2008-05-12 17:04                         ` bug#192: " David Koppelman
2008-05-12 17:04                         ` David Koppelman
2008-05-12  1:28                   ` bug#192: " Stefan Monnier
2008-05-11 19:09                 ` David Koppelman
2008-05-11 18:44             ` Stefan Monnier
2008-05-11 18:44             ` Stefan Monnier
2008-05-11 20:03               ` Thomas Lord
2008-05-12  1:43                 ` Stefan Monnier
2008-05-12  3:30                   ` Thomas Lord
2008-05-12 13:43                     ` Stefan Monnier [this message]
2008-05-12 13:43                     ` Stefan Monnier
2008-05-12 15:55                       ` bug#192: " Thomas Lord
2008-05-12 15:55                       ` Thomas Lord
2008-05-12 16:18                         ` bug#192: " tomas
2008-05-12 16:18                         ` tomas
2008-05-12  3:30                   ` bug#192: " Thomas Lord
2008-05-12  1:43                 ` Stefan Monnier
2008-05-11 20:03               ` Thomas Lord
2008-05-11 14:27           ` Chong Yidong
2008-05-06 15:35   ` Stefan Monnier
2008-05-06 21:29     ` Bruno Haible
2008-05-10 20:04     ` bug#192: " Bruno Haible
2008-05-10 20:04     ` Bruno Haible
2008-05-06 15:00 ` David Koppelman
2008-05-06 21:35   ` Bruno Haible
2008-05-07  1:04     ` Stefan Monnier
2008-05-07  1:08     ` Auto-discovery of multi-line font-lock regexps Stefan Monnier
2008-05-07  3:46       ` Chong Yidong
2008-05-07  4:21         ` Stefan Monnier
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2008-05-06  1:30 regexp does not work as documented Bruno Haible
2015-12-29 17:48 ` bug#192: " Bruno Haible

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