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From: Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
To: Reiner Steib <Reiner.Steib@gmx.de>
Cc: Simon Josefsson <simon@josefsson.org>,
	Clemens Schueller <cs.usenet.nospam@aon.at>,
	Frank Schmitt <ich@frank-schmitt.net>,
	1174@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com, ding@gnus.org
Subject: bug#1174: 23.0.60; Some UTF-8 mails displaying wrongly in Emacs 23
Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2008 16:30:49 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <jwvfxlaz0ov.fsf-monnier+emacsbugreports__21299.8188254007$1227995505$gmane$org@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87d4geim7p.fsf@marauder.physik.uni-ulm.de> (Reiner Steib's message of "Sat, 29 Nov 2008 16:30:18 +0100")

> I never saw this problem myself.  I cannot see any difference with a
> few UTF-8 articles (C-T-E: 8bit, [1]), neither with Emacs 22 (with
> current Gnus trunk) or Emacs trunk (Gnus 5.13 from there).  Stefan,
> what are the "accidental emacs-mule-valid byte sequences" that trigger
> this problem?  It would be good if someone could send me a problematic
> article. [2]

In Emacs-22, the problem was more difficult to trigger: you had to
receive an email whose undecoded text contained emacs-mule escape
sequences, which is rather uncommon.  With Emacs-23, it's a lot more
common since the internal encoding has changed to a variant of utf-8:
an 8bit body using utf-8 will see its content unwillingly decoded during
nnimap-demule which leads to the bugs we've seen recently.

I'm pretty sure that string-as-multibyte is wrong here in general.
Maybe the problem is that nnimap-demule is used blindly in different
contexts where some need string-to-multibyte and some need
string-as-multibyte.  E.g. maybe Simon's problem was linked to imap
groups with non-ASCII chars in their names, rather than in the
message bodies.


        Stefan






  parent reply	other threads:[~2008-11-29 21:30 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 39+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <jwviqpz1u4o.fsf-monnier+emacsbugreports@gnu.org>
2008-10-15 20:21 ` bug#1174: 23.0.60; Some UTF-8 mails displaying wrongly in Emacs 23 Frank Schmitt
2008-10-16  7:32   ` Andreas Schwab
2008-10-16  8:36     ` Frank Schmitt
2008-10-16 17:39       ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-10-16 18:00         ` Frank Schmitt
2008-10-16 18:15           ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-10-16 20:05             ` Frank Schmitt
2008-10-17  8:28         ` Andreas Schwab
2008-10-17  8:52           ` Frank Schmitt
2008-10-17  9:53             ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-10-17 10:02               ` Frank Schmitt
2008-10-17 10:08               ` Frank Schmitt
2008-10-17 15:39                 ` Stefan Monnier
2008-10-17 18:19                   ` Reiner Steib
     [not found]                   ` <871vyf6q40.fsf@marauder.physik.uni-ulm.de>
2008-10-17 18:36                     ` Frank Schmitt
     [not found]                     ` <m3ej2fdq5x.fsf@mid.gehheimdienst.de>
2008-11-29 12:08                       ` Reiner Steib
     [not found]                       ` <87k5ampwej.fsf@marauder.physik.uni-ulm.de>
2008-11-29 12:18                         ` Simon Josefsson
2008-12-01 21:04                         ` Stefan Monnier
     [not found]                         ` <jwv7i6j393g.fsf-monnier+emacsbugreports@gnu.org>
2008-12-01 22:48                           ` Reiner Steib
     [not found]                           ` <87y6yzbjgf.fsf@marauder.physik.uni-ulm.de>
2008-12-02  7:36                             ` Stefan Monnier
     [not found]                             ` <jwv3ah7av77.fsf-monnier+emacsbugreports@gnu.org>
2008-12-04 19:43                               ` Reiner Steib
     [not found]                               ` <87iqpz4tg2.fsf@marauder.physik.uni-ulm.de>
2008-12-04 21:43                                 ` Frank Schmitt
     [not found]                         ` <878wr2ohde.fsf@mocca.josefsson.org>
2008-11-29 15:30                           ` Reiner Steib
     [not found]                           ` <87d4geim7p.fsf@marauder.physik.uni-ulm.de>
2008-11-29 21:30                             ` Stefan Monnier [this message]
2008-11-29 22:14                             ` James Cloos
     [not found]                             ` <jwvfxlaz0ov.fsf-monnier+emacsbugreports@gnu.org>
2008-11-30 13:12                               ` Reiner Steib
2009-01-12 10:54                           ` Simon Josefsson
2009-01-12 11:03                             ` Frank Schmitt
     [not found]                             ` <m3d4es3hxu.fsf@mid.gehheimdienst.de>
2009-01-12 11:10                               ` Simon Josefsson
     [not found]                               ` <873afoixtr.fsf@mocca.josefsson.org>
     [not found]                                 ` <x6ab9u2kxr@gzp>
2009-01-14 20:12                                   ` Reiner Steib
     [not found]                                   ` <877i4xlk97.fsf@marauder.physik.uni-ulm.de>
2009-01-14 20:20                                     ` Processed: " Emacs bug Tracking System
2009-01-14 22:08                                     ` Stefan Monnier
2008-10-23  7:24                   ` Frank Schmitt
2008-10-23 13:58                     ` Stefan Monnier
2008-10-17  9:12           ` Frank Schmitt
2008-10-17  5:15       ` Richard M. Stallman
2008-10-28 22:54       ` James Cloos
2008-12-04 22:05   ` bug#1174: marked as done (23.0.60; Some UTF-8 mails displaying wrongly in Emacs 23) Emacs bug Tracking System
2009-02-18  8:55   ` Emacs bug Tracking System

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