From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: bug#4004: filename completion Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2009 15:53:38 -0400 Message-ID: References: <1b97198a0908010936o1f0b2015w8405a82648a5f869@mail.gmail.com> <877hxlbndl.fsf@gmx.de> <87ocqwenwl.fsf@gmx.de> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1249934044 10109 80.91.229.12 (10 Aug 2009 19:54:04 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2009 19:54:04 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Colin Williams , "4004@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com" <4004@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com>, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Michael Albinus Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Aug 10 21:53:53 2009 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1MaawL-0005AR-F0 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 21:53:53 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:37260 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1MaawK-0005dy-J6 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 15:53:52 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1MaawF-0005cH-Lc for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 15:53:47 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1MaawA-0005RK-Rd for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 15:53:47 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=52017 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1MaawA-0005Qt-MB for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 15:53:42 -0400 Original-Received: from ironport2-out.pppoe.ca ([206.248.154.182]:32854 helo=ironport2-out.teksavvy.com) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1MaawA-0000OO-BZ for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 15:53:42 -0400 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ApsEAPMXgEpFxL8W/2dsb2JhbACBUtA6hBgFhzg X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.43,355,1246852800"; d="scan'208";a="43259611" Original-Received: from 69-196-191-22.dsl.teksavvy.com (HELO pastel.home) ([69.196.191.22]) by ironport2-out.teksavvy.com with ESMTP; 10 Aug 2009 15:53:24 -0400 Original-Received: by pastel.home (Postfix, from userid 20848) id C9AED8370; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 15:53:38 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: (Michael Albinus's message of "Fri, 07 Aug 2009 14:04:32 +0200") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.1.50 (gnu/linux) X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:113997 Archived-At: > There was a discussion about some years ago, when I did add Tramp's > autoloads. People were annoyed, that even after typing something like > "/a" in the minibuffer, Tramp was already loaded, which raised some > delays. So it was suggested to make Tramp's autoloading optional. It was > even requested that this "optionality" should not be something, which > the user has to disnable herself; users should not be bashed by a new > feature they are not interested in. That's beginning to make more sense. But I just tried the following: emacs -Q C-x C-f /a TAB : and then emacs -Q M-: (setq partial-completion-mode t) C-x C-f /a TAB : and I don't see any difference (Tramp gets loaded when I hit : and no earlier). Could you show me another example where I can see the difference, so I can better understand the tradeoffs? Stefan