From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Emacs Package Management Date: Tue, 29 Sep 2009 21:20:54 -0400 Message-ID: References: <485b0c380808011427n4d3144eey3f8daf3abac83bf4@mail.gmail.com> <87ej589vku.fsf@hagelb.org> <485b0c380808050609y56042595l42a5bb05b34458f0@mail.gmail.com> <485b0c380909161536t331a71fdg1c45150c418b72b2@mail.gmail.com> <87ab0eai3l.fsf@hagelb.org> <87eipqpwfi.fsf@stupidchicken.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1254273678 13301 80.91.229.12 (30 Sep 2009 01:21:18 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2009 01:21:18 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Chong Yidong , emacs-devel@gnu.org, rms@gnu.org, spedrosa@gmail.com, phil@hagelb.org To: Tom Tromey Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Sep 30 03:21:11 2009 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1MsnsU-0003xk-NA for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 30 Sep 2009 03:21:11 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:41684 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1MsnsT-0001kY-Uu for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 29 Sep 2009 21:21:09 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1MsnsN-0001ip-1b for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 29 Sep 2009 21:21:03 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1MsnsI-0001fq-LS for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 29 Sep 2009 21:21:02 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=57260 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1MsnsI-0001fn-Fd for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 29 Sep 2009 21:20:58 -0400 Original-Received: from ironport2-out.teksavvy.com ([206.248.154.181]:21143 helo=ironport2-out.pppoe.ca) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1MsnsG-0002Uc-SM; Tue, 29 Sep 2009 21:20:57 -0400 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AsYEAONOwkrO+KOO/2dsb2JhbACBUNYzhB4Fh34 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.44,476,1249272000"; d="scan'208";a="46825023" Original-Received: from 206-248-163-142.dsl.teksavvy.com (HELO ceviche.home) ([206.248.163.142]) by ironport2-out.pppoe.ca with ESMTP; 29 Sep 2009 21:20:55 -0400 Original-Received: by ceviche.home (Postfix, from userid 20848) id E48EBB4265; Tue, 29 Sep 2009 21:20:54 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: (Tom Tromey's message of "Tue, 29 Sep 2009 13:41:40 -0600") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.1.50 (gnu/linux) X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:115796 Archived-At: Stefan> An important feature for me is that this should be able to "install Stefan> without making available" > ... but not this. That's what I remembered, indeed. Could you change it? Stefan> So basically, the installation process would distinguish the following Stefan> steps: Stefan> - install: may include byte-compiling and things like that Stefan> - activate: eval the autoload declarations, adjust the load-path, ... Stefan> - make available: setup the .emacs so that the package gets activated Stefan> at startup. > package.el does this. You mean that it "does" all those steps, right? Not that it "distinguishes" them, right? IOW, it collapses "activate" and "make available" into a single entity. Stefan