From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: `vertical-motion', `goto-line' set point to invisible text Date: Mon, 04 Jul 2011 10:01:10 -0400 Message-ID: References: <87ei28f4re.fsf@gmail.com> <8362njqtv8.fsf@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1309788213 2197 80.91.229.12 (4 Jul 2011 14:03:33 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 4 Jul 2011 14:03:33 +0000 (UTC) Cc: dmitry.kurochkin@gmail.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Jul 04 16:03:29 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([140.186.70.17]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QdjkF-00082p-MN for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 04 Jul 2011 16:03:27 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:58151 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QdjkE-0002rg-GC for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 04 Jul 2011 10:03:26 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:38302) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Qdji7-0002Sh-W8 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 04 Jul 2011 10:01:16 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Qdji6-0002OW-Ic for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 04 Jul 2011 10:01:15 -0400 Original-Received: from ironport2-out.teksavvy.com ([206.248.154.183]:52052 helo=ironport2-out.pppoe.ca) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Qdji4-0002Nr-Nh; Mon, 04 Jul 2011 10:01:12 -0400 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Av0EAFHGEU5FxIxr/2dsb2JhbABTp3x4iHrAdYY2BJ5chCw X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.65,472,1304308800"; d="scan'208";a="120365325" Original-Received: from 69-196-140-107.dsl.teksavvy.com (HELO pastel.home) ([69.196.140.107]) by ironport2-out.pppoe.ca with ESMTP/TLS/ADH-AES256-SHA; 04 Jul 2011 10:01:11 -0400 Original-Received: by pastel.home (Postfix, from userid 20848) id E8A2659173; Mon, 4 Jul 2011 10:01:10 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: <8362njqtv8.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Sun, 03 Jul 2011 18:14:19 +0300") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.0.50 (gnu/linux) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 206.248.154.183 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:141522 Archived-At: >> AFAIK none of those positions are *inside* invisible text > Try "M-x describe-text-properties RET", and you will see this isn't > true. AFAIK, describe-text-properties describes the properties of the char *after* point, so if you're at the beginning of invisible text (yet not inside it), describe-text-properties will show the `invisible' property. Stefan