From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Annoyingly cautious make rules Date: Fri, 02 Dec 2011 18:26:57 -0500 Message-ID: References: <83ehwnc97k.fsf@gnu.org> <4ED917E2.7020807@cs.ucla.edu> <4ED94331.7030702@cs.ucla.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1322868440 18081 80.91.229.12 (2 Dec 2011 23:27:20 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 2 Dec 2011 23:27:20 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Eli Zaretskii , Andreas Schwab , rms@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Paul Eggert Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Dec 03 00:27:15 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([140.186.70.17]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1RWcVf-00086F-J4 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 03 Dec 2011 00:27:15 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:49925 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RWcVe-0002vm-TU for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 02 Dec 2011 18:27:14 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:60637) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RWcVb-0002vc-Vo for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 02 Dec 2011 18:27:12 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RWcVa-0001hS-VX for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 02 Dec 2011 18:27:11 -0500 Original-Received: from chene.dit.umontreal.ca ([132.204.246.20]:35410) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RWcVZ-0001fB-NW; Fri, 02 Dec 2011 18:27:09 -0500 Original-Received: from pastel.home (lechon.iro.umontreal.ca [132.204.27.242]) by chene.dit.umontreal.ca (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id pB2NQwUM031586; Fri, 2 Dec 2011 18:26:58 -0500 Original-Received: by pastel.home (Postfix, from userid 20848) id E83FE58CC3; Fri, 2 Dec 2011 18:26:57 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: <4ED94331.7030702@cs.ucla.edu> (Paul Eggert's message of "Fri, 02 Dec 2011 13:29:21 -0800") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.0.91 (gnu/linux) X-NAI-Spam-Flag: NO X-NAI-Spam-Threshold: 5 X-NAI-Spam-Score: 0 X-NAI-Spam-Rules: 1 Rules triggered RV4059=0 X-NAI-Spam-Version: 2.2.0.9286 : core <4059> : streams <707228> : uri <1020631> X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 132.204.246.20 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:146443 Archived-At: >> the old setup did not need >> maintainer-mode because the configure file was auto-updated by "cvs/bzr >> update", but since this file is not under revisions control any more, >> maintainer-mode is needed to keep the file up to date. > Sorry, I don't follow. The 2011-03-20 change put a copy of > 'configure' into autogen/configure, and autogen/copy_autogen creates > an up-to-date copy of 'configure' from 'autogen/configure'. > So I don't see why the problematic dependencies are needed after > autogen/copy_autogen is run. It's true that 'configure' is not under > revision control, but the problematic dependencies aren't needed to > keep it 'configure' up to date if one uses copy_autogen. Those changes were all about building configure locally from configure.in rather than getting it from the VCS. copy-autogen is only a fallback case that's expected to be used only by those very few people who don't have an autoconf that's sufficiently up to date. Stefan