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From: Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
To: Bastien <bzg@altern.org>
Cc: 13260@debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: bug#13260: 24.3.50; save match data for core functions like `delete-char' and `delete-backward-char'?
Date: Sun, 23 Dec 2012 19:54:00 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <jwvfw2wgtpe.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87bodkbu2k.fsf@bzg.ath.cx> (Bastien's message of "Sun, 23 Dec 2012 17:40:35 +0100")

>>> I know the policy is to let any function assume the match data
>>> are not saved, but I think an exception would be useful here.
>> Why?
> Because delete-char is very low-level and because it is hard to
> guess why it would modify the match data -- hence very easy to
> assume it will not, while it does.

AFAIK delete-char does not modify the match-data any more than other
buffer-modifying operations (such as delete-region, insert, ...).
They all just modify the buffer, which is turn can modify the match-data
because it runs various hooks which can do all kinds of things.

> Principle of least surprise?

The rule "expect the match-data to be destroyed all the time" is the one
that leads to the least surprise.  99% of the functions can destroy the
match-data, even though they may preserve it in 99% of
the circumstances.

And in 99% of the cases where they do destroy the match-data, nobody
cares anyway, which is why we shouldn't always save-match-data.


        Stefan





  reply	other threads:[~2012-12-24  0:54 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 8+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-12-23 15:18 bug#13260: 24.3.50; save match data for core functions like `delete-char' and `delete-backward-char'? Bastien Guerry
2012-12-23 15:47 ` Stefan Monnier
2012-12-23 16:40   ` Bastien
2012-12-24  0:54     ` Stefan Monnier [this message]
2012-12-24  1:03       ` bug#13260: 24.3.50; save match data for core functions like `delete-char' and`delete-backward-char'? Drew Adams
2012-12-24  1:24       ` bug#13260: 24.3.50; save match data for core functions like `delete-char' and `delete-backward-char'? Bastien
2012-12-24  5:09         ` Stefan Monnier
2012-12-24  1:25       ` Bastien

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