From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#16479: 24.3.50; daemon freeze with tty menus Date: Sun, 26 Jan 2014 21:07:20 -0500 Message-ID: References: <87y52fgd5g.fsf@holos.localdomain> <83ha93kk5m.fsf@gnu.org> <87eh4652o0.fsf@holos.localdomain> <83fvomlv7w.fsf@gnu.org> <83eh46lsy5.fsf@gnu.org> <838uueljdv.fsf@gnu.org> <834n52l9qh.fsf@gnu.org> <8361peilxe.fsf@gnu.org> <83y52ah2f9.fsf@gnu.org> <83vbxegxps.fsf@gnu.org> <83a9ekcrg2.fsf@gnu.org> <83bnyzbdry.fsf@gnu.org> <837g9mbtl9.fsf@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1390788501 22803 80.91.229.3 (27 Jan 2014 02:08:21 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 27 Jan 2014 02:08:21 +0000 (UTC) Cc: mvoteiza@udel.edu, 16479@debbugs.gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Jan 27 03:08:27 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1W7bcf-0006uN-V6 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Mon, 27 Jan 2014 03:08:26 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:57005 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1W7bcf-0004uc-8h for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sun, 26 Jan 2014 21:08:25 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:45601) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1W7bcW-0004uU-8V for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 26 Jan 2014 21:08:23 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1W7bcJ-000718-5a for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 26 Jan 2014 21:08:16 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:51287) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1W7bcJ-00070r-2i for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 26 Jan 2014 21:08:03 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1W7bcI-0005Lg-Js for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 26 Jan 2014 21:08:02 -0500 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Stefan Monnier Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Mon, 27 Jan 2014 02:08:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 16479 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 16479-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B16479.139078844320512 (code B ref 16479); Mon, 27 Jan 2014 02:08:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 16479) by debbugs.gnu.org; 27 Jan 2014 02:07:23 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:37073 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1W7bbf-0005Km-7x for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 26 Jan 2014 21:07:23 -0500 Original-Received: from ironport2-out.teksavvy.com ([206.248.154.181]:1195) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1W7bbd-0005Kc-4h for 16479@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 26 Jan 2014 21:07:21 -0500 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Av8EABK/CFFsoXJr/2dsb2JhbABEuzWDWRdzgh8BBVYjEAs0EhQYDSSIJMEtkQoDiGGcGYFegxU X-IPAS-Result: Av8EABK/CFFsoXJr/2dsb2JhbABEuzWDWRdzgh8BBVYjEAs0EhQYDSSIJMEtkQoDiGGcGYFegxU X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.84,565,1355115600"; d="scan'208";a="46125656" Original-Received: from 108-161-114-107.dsl.teksavvy.com (HELO pastel.home) ([108.161.114.107]) by ironport2-out.teksavvy.com with ESMTP/TLS/ADH-AES256-SHA; 26 Jan 2014 21:07:20 -0500 Original-Received: by pastel.home (Postfix, from userid 20848) id 6A22760286; Sun, 26 Jan 2014 21:07:20 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: <837g9mbtl9.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Sun, 26 Jan 2014 18:23:14 +0200") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.3.50 (gnu/linux) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:84080 Archived-At: >> >> do that same thing for terminal-local bindings. >> > Could this be related to the fact that Voverriding_terminal_local_map >> > is a per-keyboard variable? >> Right: "terminal-local" == "per-keyboard". > Any guidance as to how to solve this? In specbind we need to add special handling for "per-keyboard variables" by setting the `where' slot to hold the corresponding keyboard. And then in all the places where the `where' slot is used, adjust the code to handle the case where it holds a keyboard rather than a buffer (or a frame). One problem will bite us along the way: keyboards are not visible as Lisp_Object objects. You'll have to store in `where' the terminal object instead. The distinction between keyboards and terminals is subtle. In 99.9% of the cases, there's a one-to-one correspondence between the two, the 0.1% remaining is when you have an X server with 2 "screens" (this is "screen" in the X11 sense, i.e. one has name ":0.0" and the other ":0.1"), in which case we will have two terminals for a single keyboard. So storing the terminal instead of the keyword is correct in 99.9% of the cases. And to tell you the truth, this subtlety is much too subtle for us, so we have such "errors" in many other places. As I mentioned in the past in some other thread, we should simply get rid of this subtlety, i.e. get rid of the distinction between terminals and keyboards. Stefan