From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Everyone, please stop making my life more difficult Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2014 13:06:19 -0400 Message-ID: References: <20140912043652.4D6D8380604@snark.thyrsus.com> <83zje56ymd.fsf@gnu.org> <20140912083430.GA32586@thyrsus.com> <87mwa59i1r.fsf@igel.home> <87ioksx5v8.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <20140912161240.GB5086@thyrsus.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1410541632 24871 80.91.229.3 (12 Sep 2014 17:07:12 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2014 17:07:12 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Emacs developers , Yuri Khan To: "Eric S. Raymond" Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Sep 12 19:07:04 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1XSUJL-0004kk-JN for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 12 Sep 2014 19:07:03 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:46447 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XSUJL-0003A9-1n for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 12 Sep 2014 13:07:03 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:57955) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XSUJA-00034b-7R for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 12 Sep 2014 13:07:00 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XSUJ1-0001JU-SD for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 12 Sep 2014 13:06:52 -0400 Original-Received: from mercure.iro.umontreal.ca ([132.204.24.67]:58811) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XSUJ1-0001JQ-On for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 12 Sep 2014 13:06:43 -0400 Original-Received: from hidalgo.iro.umontreal.ca (hidalgo.iro.umontreal.ca [132.204.27.50]) by mercure.iro.umontreal.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id EAD7984FEE; Fri, 12 Sep 2014 13:06:42 -0400 (EDT) Original-Received: from lechon.iro.umontreal.ca (lechon.iro.umontreal.ca [132.204.27.242]) by hidalgo.iro.umontreal.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D4541E5B74; Fri, 12 Sep 2014 13:06:20 -0400 (EDT) Original-Received: by lechon.iro.umontreal.ca (Postfix, from userid 20848) id E3F3BB41B5; Fri, 12 Sep 2014 13:06:19 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: <20140912161240.GB5086@thyrsus.com> (Eric S. Raymond's message of "Fri, 12 Sep 2014 12:12:40 -0400") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.4.50 (gnu/linux) X-DIRO-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-DIRO-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-DIRO-MailScanner-SpamCheck: n'est pas un polluriel, SpamAssassin (score=-2.82, requis 5, autolearn=not spam, ALL_TRUSTED -2.82, MC_TSTLAST 0.00) X-DIRO-MailScanner-From: monnier@iro.umontreal.ca X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6.x X-Received-From: 132.204.24.67 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:174242 Archived-At: I can't say you guys send so much time on an issue that seems so irrelevant. If you want a precise and reliable reference, then use the human-incompatible revid. In text such as ChangeLog and commit messages (i.e. for human consumption), please use something human can understand, typically author + date. The fact that it can be ambiguous is not a serious concern, AFAIK, and human should/will be able to figure out what was meant. Stefan