From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#19889: tex-verbatim face: don't specify :family? Date: Wed, 18 Feb 2015 20:55:00 -0500 Message-ID: References: <7kk2zfjaly.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1424310983 13231 80.91.229.3 (19 Feb 2015 01:56:23 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2015 01:56:23 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 19889@debbugs.gnu.org To: Glenn Morris Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Feb 19 02:56:11 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1YOGLb-000488-Dq for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 19 Feb 2015 02:56:11 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:54535 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YOGLa-0001u5-Ri for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 18 Feb 2015 20:56:10 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:54312) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YOGLW-0001sX-At for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 18 Feb 2015 20:56:07 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YOGLT-0002Ka-4K for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 18 Feb 2015 20:56:06 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:56999) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YOGLS-0002Jf-Ux for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 18 Feb 2015 20:56:03 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1YOGLS-0007C3-DJ for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 18 Feb 2015 20:56:02 -0500 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Stefan Monnier Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2015 01:56:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 19889 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 19889-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B19889.142431092527600 (code B ref 19889); Thu, 19 Feb 2015 01:56:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 19889) by debbugs.gnu.org; 19 Feb 2015 01:55:25 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:48239 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1YOGKq-0007B6-QX for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 18 Feb 2015 20:55:25 -0500 Original-Received: from ironport2-out.teksavvy.com ([206.248.154.181]:13718) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1YOGKo-0007Aw-EP for 19889@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 18 Feb 2015 20:55:23 -0500 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ArsTAPOG1lTO+LI//2dsb2JhbABbgwaDX4VTwGUEAgKBDUQBAQEBAQF8hA0BBAFWIwULCw4mEhQYDSSIOAjOIwEBAQEGAQEBAR6PeAeEKgWKJ59LgUUihAwggnMBAQE X-IPAS-Result: ArsTAPOG1lTO+LI//2dsb2JhbABbgwaDX4VTwGUEAgKBDUQBAQEBAQF8hA0BBAFWIwULCw4mEhQYDSSIOAjOIwEBAQEGAQEBAR6PeAeEKgWKJ59LgUUihAwggnMBAQE X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="5.09,536,1418101200"; d="scan'208";a="110870035" Original-Received: from 206-248-178-63.dsl.teksavvy.com (HELO pastel.home) ([206.248.178.63]) by ironport2-out.teksavvy.com with ESMTP/TLS/DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA; 18 Feb 2015 20:55:20 -0500 Original-Received: by pastel.home (Postfix, from userid 20848) id 5755F1F5F; Wed, 18 Feb 2015 20:55:00 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: <7kk2zfjaly.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> (Glenn Morris's message of "Wed, 18 Feb 2015 14:14:17 -0500") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.0.50 (gnu/linux) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:99571 Archived-At: > So presumably the problem is that it picks an x font rather than an xft one. > See attached image for how it looks clunky in info. Yes, that's the usual cause for blocky fonts. > Firefox just uses "Monospace" font. When/where? > Gnome-terminal has "use the system fixed-with font". How's that relevant for tex-verbatim or Info-quoted? > IIUC, fc-match tells me that monspace == DejaVu Sans Mono. For tex-verbatim, it shouldn't just be monospaced, but should look somewhat like TeX's verbatim font (i.e. old typewriter style, i.e. courier). For Info-quoted, it's not indispensable that it looks like courier, but it should look different from the default font (by default). IIUC the default font nowadays is a monospaced sans-serif font, so I chose a monospaced font with serif. > I know little about fonts, but it seems suboptimal to me to try and > specify a family for a handful of faces, since it's impossible to > predict how it will look in conjunction with the user's other fonts. I think we should define a `fixed-width-with-serif' face and inherit from that, to make the intention clear. Stefan