From: Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
To: Thibaut Verron <thibaut.verron@gmail.com>
Cc: emacs-devel <emacs-devel@gnu.org>
Subject: Re: Default setting for sh-maybe-here-document-mode
Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2015 12:08:49 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <jwvfva0msf7.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAFsi02QzV13xZ+66Yzh9pjjMQJeZPqBcM2UOY1utW8=XeeHbdg@mail.gmail.com> (Thibaut Verron's message of "Fri, 20 Feb 2015 16:49:27 +0100")
>> Hmm... indeed, maybe it should be a global minor mode?
> And auto-loaded?
I think we could make it so that (setq sh-electric-here-document-mode
nil) in your ~/.emacs would be sufficient.
Autoloading it and having users put (sh-electric-here-document-mode -1)
in their ~/.emacs means that those users end up loading
sh-script.el eagerly.
> This could work. Another option would be to reenable the binding on
> '<' (see just below), and let users who do not want the behavior use
> self-insert-command.
No, using post-self-insert-hook instead of a key-binding was the main
motivation behind the change. Reverting this is not an option.
> It is very easy: try to feed a single line to a command, using a
> here-string. In other words, try to enter
> command <<< "line of text"
Ah, right, I remember this now (obviously, I never use it myself).
Could you file a bug report for it? I think the feature was developed
at a time where <<< didn't exist, and accommodating <<< will require
some rethinking.
> This use-case can be accommodated with this piece of code:
> http://emacs.stackexchange.com/a/5338/184
> It still fails in case the here-document is supposed to start with a <,
> which is reasonable, but would probably be even more confusing as a default.
It's also rather jarring to have a "big" chunk of text be inserted
there, and it may not occur to the user than hitting a third < will get
her what she wanted.
> Another use-case, even if you never use here-strings, is that you want to
> enter a single <, but enter << instead. You would expect this mistake to be
> corrected with a single backspace, but it's not.
We could special case this, potentially, but at the same time `undo' is
your friend.
> By the way, we could design it so that the feature is still accessible, but
> through more conventional entry points, for example by pressing TAB with
> point after << .
Right, or we could trigger the heredoc template after `< < SPC' rather
than just after '< <'. In any case, given the use of <<< I agree that
the current moment at which heredoc is triggered is inappropriate.
Stefan
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2015-02-20 17:08 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 10+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2015-02-20 8:19 Default setting for sh-maybe-here-document-mode Thibaut Verron
2015-02-20 8:31 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-02-20 8:39 ` Thibaut Verron
2015-02-20 13:58 ` Stefan Monnier
2015-02-20 15:49 ` Thibaut Verron
2015-02-20 17:08 ` Stefan Monnier [this message]
2015-02-20 17:23 ` Thibaut Verron
2015-02-22 23:24 ` Stefan Monnier
2015-02-23 8:41 ` Thibaut Verron
2015-02-21 9:12 ` Philipp Stephani
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