From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: tramp-compat-funcall -> compat-funcall? Date: Fri, 23 Sep 2016 11:49:50 -0400 Message-ID: References: <87lgykci0z.fsf@lifelogs.com> <87h997u1rq.fsf@lifelogs.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1474645859 8955 195.159.176.226 (23 Sep 2016 15:50:59 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 23 Sep 2016 15:50:59 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.1.50 (gnu/linux) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Sep 23 17:50:56 2016 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1bnSkJ-0000Gc-IU for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 23 Sep 2016 17:50:39 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:47769 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bnSkH-0005BI-UK for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 23 Sep 2016 11:50:37 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:50385) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bnSk8-00058X-Mg for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 23 Sep 2016 11:50:29 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bnSk4-0004ku-Gi for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 23 Sep 2016 11:50:27 -0400 Original-Received: from [195.159.176.226] (port=52142 helo=blaine.gmane.org) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bnSk4-0004jT-9O for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 23 Sep 2016 11:50:24 -0400 Original-Received: from list by blaine.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1bnSjq-0005Sm-Pe for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 23 Sep 2016 17:50:10 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-Lines: 16 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org Cancel-Lock: sha1:pvc6T291dR10CoO4bTO07nYVauY= X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 195.159.176.226 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:207733 Archived-At: > The use case, I think, is "to provide compatibility with older Emacsen, > I need a convenient way to call a function softly without compiler > warnings if it doesn't exist." I think, based on the two examples I gave > (`gnus-funcall-no-warning' was the other instance), that it's not an > uncommon need, and it's better to provide it in a core facility than ask > package maintainers to implement it. There's (if (fboundp ') ( )) already (which is much better than tramp-compat-funcall since it says explicitly what to do if the function doesn't exist). So the question is what to do for the use cases of tramp-compat-funcall not covered by this if/fboundp idiom. Stefan