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From: Stefan Monnier <monnier@IRO.UMontreal.CA>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: [Emacs-diffs] master d826037 3/3: Remove the need for temacs.in
Date: Sun, 14 Apr 2019 10:55:38 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <jwvftqkk5h6.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <83ef64k7k6.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Sun, 14 Apr 2019 17:03:37 +0300")

>> > Paul, I think this discussion pointed out that there are no advantages
>> > to your change, while it does have disadvantages.
>> Hmm... it does have the advantage of speeding up compilation by
>> eliminating one `ld` call
> By how much?

I didn't bother to measure it, but I felt like it is a noticeable
difference in some of my use cases (because I sometimes noticed that
the make was stopped while linking temacs.in, and because it is also
often stopped while linking temacs).

> is it significant enough to countermand the disadvantages?

It all depends on your beliefs, not on technical issues, I think.

The fingerprint is not guaranteed foolproof when computed from the *.o
files and is not guaranteed foolproof when made from the temacs.in
file either.

Also the fingerprint is actually technically only needed to catch
misuses (when the user mistakenly uses a snapshot together with the wrong
emacs executable).

So it's a question of "how much work are we willing to do in order to
try and catch misuses".

Personally I appreciated the speed up, and found it to be worthwhile
compared to the slightly higher risk of not noticing a misuse.

But I'll let others choose which color we should choose for
this bikeshed.


        Stefan



  reply	other threads:[~2019-04-14 14:55 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 24+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <20190409224339.20116.87667@vcs0.savannah.gnu.org>
     [not found] ` <20190409224342.0DA1F20E54@vcs0.savannah.gnu.org>
2019-04-10 18:53   ` [Emacs-diffs] master d826037 3/3: Remove the need for temacs.in Daniel Colascione
2019-04-10 19:31     ` Paul Eggert
2019-04-10 19:42       ` Daniel Colascione
2019-04-10 20:43         ` Paul Eggert
2019-04-10 20:56           ` Daniel Colascione
2019-04-11  3:31             ` Paul Eggert
2019-04-11 22:24               ` Daniel Colascione
2019-04-12  3:45                 ` Paul Eggert
2019-04-12  4:20                   ` Daniel Colascione
2019-04-13  6:52                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-04-14  3:40                       ` Stefan Monnier
2019-04-14  3:43                         ` Daniel Colascione
2019-04-14  4:08                           ` Stefan Monnier
2019-04-14 14:03                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-04-14 14:55                           ` Stefan Monnier [this message]
2019-04-14 15:47                             ` dancol
2019-04-14 17:30                               ` Stefan Monnier
2019-04-14 17:44                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-04-15  0:19                     ` Paul Eggert
2019-04-11 19:35     ` Stefan Monnier
2019-04-11 22:15       ` Daniel Colascione
2019-04-11 23:37         ` Stefan Monnier
     [not found] ` <20190409224341.BED1520E43@vcs0.savannah.gnu.org>
2019-04-10 19:00   ` [Emacs-diffs] master e44ff2d 2/3: Remove assumption of uint64_t etc. in portable code Daniel Colascione
2019-04-10 19:51     ` Paul Eggert

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