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From: Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
To: Pip Cet <pipcet@gmail.com>
Cc: niwtrx@icloud.com, 38912@debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: bug#38912: 27.0.60; PDumper meets segmentation fault when evil is loaded
Date: Tue, 07 Jan 2020 15:03:21 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <jwvftgryrju.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAOqdjBcMj92fwV3YcPYr4r7t19ELK6o4JiJXbVwLqoDzu4mNzw@mail.gmail.com> (Pip Cet's message of "Tue, 7 Jan 2020 19:31:10 +0000")

>> so the problem doesn't affect only byte-compiled objects but also
>> overlays, markers, windowconfigs, chartables, and fonts, AFAICT.
> True, but then, those don't make much sense as hash keys in an
> equal-based hash table.

Comparing markers with `equal` does make some kind of sense.
And `sxhash-equal` needs to be consistent with it, regardless if we
think it makes sense to index an equal-hash-table with markers (or
objects containing markers).

> I don't think bytecode objects make sense as
> hash keys in an equal-based hash table,

I agree that comparing function objects is fundamentally unreliable, yet
we do that in several places in Elisp: it's not super common, but it's
not rare either, and having a better approximation of "behaves
identically" than `eq` is occasionally useful.

> on its position, for example, makes little sense: when the marker
> moves, the hash value would change.

Comparison with `equal` suffers from this problem in many more cases
than just markers (cons cells, vectors, strings, ...).

> (deduplicating identical bytecode objects used as constants in other
> bytecode objects appears to save quite a bit of space),

I'm curious where you've seen that (I haven't looked at it, but indeed
it's quite possible that the byte-compiler "often" ends up generating
identical byte objects).


        Stefan






  reply	other threads:[~2020-01-07 20:03 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 45+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-01-04  1:49 bug#38912: 27.0.60; PDumper meets segmentation fault when evil is loaded NiwTinray via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2020-01-04  9:17 ` Eli Zaretskii
     [not found]   ` <D1473DD8-48F8-4204-80B5-BE6396B8B668@icloud.com>
2020-01-05 18:45     ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-01-06 15:51       ` Pip Cet
2020-01-06 16:34         ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-01-06 16:38           ` Pip Cet
2020-01-06 17:20             ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-01-06 17:01           ` Daniel Colascione
2020-01-06 17:13             ` Pip Cet
2020-01-06 17:13             ` Pip Cet
2020-01-06 17:30               ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-01-06 18:13                 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-01-06 18:19                   ` Noam Postavsky
2020-01-06 18:29                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-01-07 19:31                   ` Pip Cet
2020-01-07 20:03                     ` Stefan Monnier [this message]
2020-01-07  2:38               ` Paul Eggert
2020-01-07  3:34                 ` dancol
2020-01-07 14:16                   ` Stefan Monnier
2020-01-07 19:32                     ` Paul Eggert
2020-01-07 19:32                     ` Paul Eggert
2020-01-07 14:16                   ` Stefan Monnier
2020-01-07 15:47                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-01-07 17:37                   ` Stefan Monnier
2020-01-07 17:37                   ` Stefan Monnier
2020-01-07 17:43                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-01-07 17:43                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-01-07 18:01                       ` Stefan Monnier
2020-01-07 18:01                       ` Stefan Monnier
2020-01-07 18:11                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-01-07 18:47                           ` Stefan Monnier
2020-01-07 18:47                           ` Stefan Monnier
2020-01-07 18:29                         ` martin rudalics
2020-01-07 18:29                         ` martin rudalics
2020-01-07 18:43                           ` Stefan Monnier
2020-01-07 18:58                             ` martin rudalics
2020-01-07 18:43                           ` Stefan Monnier
2020-01-06 17:25             ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-01-07 23:43             ` Richard Stallman
2020-01-06 17:10       ` Daniel Colascione
2020-03-05  7:14         ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-03-09  2:15           ` Daniel Colascione
2020-03-09  3:26             ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-06-24 16:30               ` bug#32503: 26.1; Byte-compiled functions don't hash consistently Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-04-28 11:41                 ` bug#38912: 27.0.60; PDumper meets segmentation fault when evil is loaded Lars Ingebrigtsen

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