From: Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
To: Dmitry Gutov <dgutov@yandex.ru>
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: locked narrowing in ELisp
Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2022 09:03:08 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <jwvfshvc9fh.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <79484704-f981-5c12-e000-333b75499520@yandex.ru> (Dmitry Gutov's message of "Wed, 17 Aug 2022 04:00:28 +0300")
>> Such a display-only narrowing might be a good alternative for many uses
>> of narrowing, but narrowing is also used quite commonly (either by the
>> end-user or in ELisp code) in order to restrict the effect of an
>> operation (like search&replace) to a particular region.
>
> Certain operations could look up the "soft narrowing" bounds and act
> accordingly, if it's implemented in the core and appropriately documented.
Could be, but unless we go through the whole C code looking for checks
of BEGV/ZV and updating the code to also check the "soft bounds" this
won't work reliably enough to replace existing uses of narrowing.
> To my understanding, there are more commands and facilities that want to
> ignore user-level narrowing, rather than the ones that want to obey it. Also
> a lot of "undecided" ones, waiting for someone to report that they should,
> in fact, ignore narrowing.
But for backward compatibility reasons, we can't break the cases that
need the bounds to be hard, even if it could fix some cases.
Stefan
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2022-08-17 13:03 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 19+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2022-08-16 20:18 locked narrowing in ELisp Stefan Monnier
2022-08-17 0:05 ` Dmitry Gutov
2022-08-17 0:55 ` Stefan Monnier
2022-08-17 1:00 ` Dmitry Gutov
2022-08-17 13:03 ` Stefan Monnier [this message]
2022-08-17 13:40 ` Dmitry Gutov
2022-08-17 13:55 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-08-17 14:03 ` Dmitry Gutov
2022-08-17 14:20 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-08-17 23:13 ` Dmitry Gutov
2022-08-18 1:58 ` Stefan Monnier
2022-08-18 21:42 ` Dmitry Gutov
2022-08-18 6:25 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-08-18 23:10 ` Dmitry Gutov
2022-08-19 6:31 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-08-22 0:59 ` Dmitry Gutov
2022-08-17 11:44 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-08-17 11:54 ` Dmitry Gutov
2022-08-17 5:59 ` Po Lu
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