From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier via "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#61532: 30.0.50; [PATCH]: Make completions without sortText fall to back of the list Date: Sun, 19 Feb 2023 18:53:46 -0500 Message-ID: References: <87ttzn6kxb.fsf@thornhill.no> <875yby62j9.fsf@thornhill.no> <348D7924-284D-4D14-882E-02C8CAD7A925@thornhill.no> <874jrhxzqp.fsf@tcd.ie> <87sff1ij8u.fsf@thornhill.no> Reply-To: Stefan Monnier Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="612"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Cc: "Basil L. Contovounesios" , 61532@debbugs.gnu.org, Augusto Stoffel , Theodor Thornhill To: =?UTF-8?Q?Jo=C3=A3o_?= =?UTF-8?Q?T=C3=A1vora?= Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Mon Feb 20 00:55:20 2023 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1pTtWa-000AUg-6f for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 20 Feb 2023 00:55:20 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1pTtWM-0004dI-32; Sun, 19 Feb 2023 18:55:06 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1pTtWJ-0004d1-LY for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 19 Feb 2023 18:55:04 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1pTtWI-0006mS-K8 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 19 Feb 2023 18:55:03 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1pTtWI-0003IS-6o for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 19 Feb 2023 18:55:02 -0500 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Stefan Monnier Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sun, 19 Feb 2023 23:55:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 61532 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: patch Original-Received: via spool by 61532-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B61532.167685084312598 (code B ref 61532); Sun, 19 Feb 2023 23:55:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 61532) by debbugs.gnu.org; 19 Feb 2023 23:54:03 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:49974 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1pTtVK-0003H8-Sj for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 19 Feb 2023 18:54:03 -0500 Original-Received: from mailscanner.iro.umontreal.ca ([132.204.25.50]:63132) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1pTtVJ-0003Ge-Sr for 61532@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 19 Feb 2023 18:54:02 -0500 Original-Received: from pmg3.iro.umontreal.ca (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pmg3.iro.umontreal.ca (Proxmox) with ESMTP id 7306C4415BC; Sun, 19 Feb 2023 18:53:56 -0500 (EST) Original-Received: from mail01.iro.umontreal.ca (unknown [172.31.2.1]) by pmg3.iro.umontreal.ca (Proxmox) with ESMTP id BD81D4415B9; Sun, 19 Feb 2023 18:53:47 -0500 (EST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=iro.umontreal.ca; s=mail; t=1676850827; bh=8NtMg2/qv2SP+CojlhFi/9xO/+vx+2GaMnl8DGI/uQk=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:In-Reply-To:References:Date:From; b=nYdnPjJnc94E3c7+fH+XvvG748uVWoMGPZjFAW1hnNlu2j8LZ6BGuw2hS8G4Jt2Q8 X6I2D7i9mczU537qmS1Ak7+Gm0WVdArC88C8Hhedx1OS8vC8K7wKxaM89Q072W1S8X ln3Hh/TryR63V4rLUqHDk1oR1J/pXbjQtumw7+GkHCRuLFe0ogxCsKsoYqSgktc904 W+BY/6p1jI3n8Z8cgBTrqiq4cM1ZS7dxKhUpi9gAl3ORQQSROt4PWe/VbRUl9FVm1m vFk/7BCmf7vWr4TrzNFoTBbYXGKiz7fKMn5UZ78VRtVPZmy/akmEjOMDIhDWU4uB3t LzQvd2JLti3EQ== Original-Received: from pastel (unknown [216.154.34.24]) by mail01.iro.umontreal.ca (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 8602B1231B4; Sun, 19 Feb 2023 18:53:47 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: ("=?UTF-8?Q?Jo=C3=A3o_?= =?UTF-8?Q?T=C3=A1vora?="'s message of "Sun, 19 Feb 2023 23:39:55 +0000") X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:256120 Archived-At: >> It may simply be Gmail being Gmail (i.e. rejecting email that's not >> "direct from a Gmail-like service provider"). > I did get Basil's X-Debbugs-CC, FWIW, but not Theodor's. AFAIK Gmail's rejection algorithm (like most SPAM systems nowadays) is not deterministic nor documented, so until proof that it's something else, we can only guess that maybe(?) it's Gmail. We do know that it tends to cause problems mostly when email is redirected (mailing list software has had to grow ugly hacks to try and convince Gmail (and its siblings like Hotmail) to keep accepting their messages). Stefan